What's The Real Story On CGT Maintenance
07-31-2005, 05:58 PM
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What's The Real Story On CGT Maintenance
Knowledge is always a useful weapon. I've been hearing a lot of RUMORS on what maintainance costs are on the CGT and just wanted to get some facts established.
Could owners provide a sense of what the costs are for:
- Oil change - have heard ~1K
- Clutch - have heard $25K
- Pads - ??
- Rotors - ??
- Tires - have heard $1K for buying / mounting / balancing all tires
Any other maintenance items that bear mentioning?
Thx.
Could owners provide a sense of what the costs are for:
- Oil change - have heard ~1K
- Clutch - have heard $25K
- Pads - ??
- Rotors - ??
- Tires - have heard $1K for buying / mounting / balancing all tires
Any other maintenance items that bear mentioning?
Thx.
08-01-2005, 03:42 PM
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Porsche Reading (the flagship dealer in the UK, part of Porsche UK itself) is quoting around £30,000 for a replacement clutch fully installed etc etc. This is NOT hearsay. My business partner and myself bought two GT3's from them in May and they gave us the coup on the CGT.
This CGT is pretty serious car!
This CGT is pretty serious car!
08-01-2005, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by m21sniper
1k for an oil change?
That can't be right....can it?
That can't be right....can it?
I also read that at some point the car will need a "value adjustment"(?) which will require a special technician possibly from Germany. The cost was astrononmical I believe in the area of $35,000.
You do not own this car if you are living paycheck to paycheck.
08-01-2005, 05:46 PM
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And the scheduled oil changes occur at 15K, 45K, 75K etc. etc. miles.
I supose one could actually put 15,000 miles in a year on the car, but after that first oil change, you'd be set for 2 years.
Nick, if by this comment you mean running the car routinely on a racetrack, I'd respond by saying that 2500 miles on a single set of tires is pretty damned good. I drive mine like a CAR for the ROAD but I'm only at 1200 miles or so. I'll keep you updated on mile 2500 and how my tires look at that point.
I know Ben drove his car very aggressively and here is his post regarding his personal maintenance costs from 6speedonline [LINK]
I supose one could actually put 15,000 miles in a year on the car, but after that first oil change, you'd be set for 2 years.
Also, tire life is around 2500 miles unless you are not using the car for what it was intended. That will run you close to $2000 which includes installation and balancing.
I know Ben drove his car very aggressively and here is his post regarding his personal maintenance costs from 6speedonline [LINK]
pads are only $350/axle including dampers. however, book rate for changing the fronts is 2 hours!
tires are only $1435 (including shipping from tirerack), but the dealer gets 2.7 hours for mounting and balancing (they have a monopoly on the lift process). with any luck, your dealer will treat you better and cut you some major slack on the pad labor if you are getting tires put on at the same time since well over 75% of the 2 hour book rate is jacking the car and removing and retorquing the wheels. i've referred 4 CGT buyers to this dealer though so i don't know what it takes to get treated right.
i know of more than one person whose tires and brakes look like new after 4k miles though so i'm majorly an aboration. then again, my pads and tires on the stradale looked like new (save for scrubbing at the edge) after 1600 miles (1500 ish from me) and my 2nd set of pads on the CGT is looking cruddy after 1k miles already (first set made it 2500, but that obviously includes the break in), and this time i need all four pads. fwiw, i drove the stradale in the same manner i drive the CGT.
bottomline, it's doubtful you're gonna go through tires and brakes at remotely my rate and hopefully your dealer won't f you as mine is f-ng me when you do.
ps. this dealer quoted me 8 to 9 hours labor for changing oil!!!!! they said this has recently been adjusted downward (by how much who knows) since - owing to taking apart a CGT recently and knowing more about how it works. apparently we early guys are paying the training $ for the porsche mechanics PCNA has failed to train themselves.
daily drivability in my opinion is great w/ the exception of getting gas at certain stations with "V" swaled entrance/exits. truthfully though, i've not had that much trouble even with this issue.
tires are only $1435 (including shipping from tirerack), but the dealer gets 2.7 hours for mounting and balancing (they have a monopoly on the lift process). with any luck, your dealer will treat you better and cut you some major slack on the pad labor if you are getting tires put on at the same time since well over 75% of the 2 hour book rate is jacking the car and removing and retorquing the wheels. i've referred 4 CGT buyers to this dealer though so i don't know what it takes to get treated right.
i know of more than one person whose tires and brakes look like new after 4k miles though so i'm majorly an aboration. then again, my pads and tires on the stradale looked like new (save for scrubbing at the edge) after 1600 miles (1500 ish from me) and my 2nd set of pads on the CGT is looking cruddy after 1k miles already (first set made it 2500, but that obviously includes the break in), and this time i need all four pads. fwiw, i drove the stradale in the same manner i drive the CGT.
bottomline, it's doubtful you're gonna go through tires and brakes at remotely my rate and hopefully your dealer won't f you as mine is f-ng me when you do.
ps. this dealer quoted me 8 to 9 hours labor for changing oil!!!!! they said this has recently been adjusted downward (by how much who knows) since - owing to taking apart a CGT recently and knowing more about how it works. apparently we early guys are paying the training $ for the porsche mechanics PCNA has failed to train themselves.
daily drivability in my opinion is great w/ the exception of getting gas at certain stations with "V" swaled entrance/exits. truthfully though, i've not had that much trouble even with this issue.
08-01-2005, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
I also read that at some point the car will need a "value adjustment"(?) which will require a special technician possibly from Germany. The cost was astrononmical I believe in the area of $35,000.
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08-01-2005, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tdf360
"value adjustment"?? That's happening as we speak, apparently. Or should it read "valve adjustment"? Does the CGT use hydraulic lifters or not?
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08-01-2005, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Yes it is. Apparently changing the oil is labor intensive. Also, tire life is around 2500 miles unless you are not using the car for what it was intended. That will run you close to $2000 which includes installation and balancing.
08-01-2005, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Gary it should read valve and I do not know if it has hydraulic lifters. That is why I put the question mark after referencing it.
Given these cars won't be driven more than 5,000 miles per year, the first valve adjustment on a CGT will probably take place in 2009. Nick, with a new clutch every 5,000 miles or so, how much do you think your Ferrari will cost you between now and 2009?
08-01-2005, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick
You do not own this car if you are living paycheck to paycheck.
08-02-2005, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick
I also read that at some point the car will need a "value adjustment"(?) which will require a special technician possibly from Germany. The cost was astrononmical I believe in the area of $35,000.
