hesperus

yeah i know, we need laptimes, but hey... fun nonetheless

CGT000

Wow. I didn't think the P1 would be so fast.

neanicu

Great video! Thanks for posting!

WOW! I would've bet money the 918 is faster,especially(if I'm not mistaking) the Weissach pkg. Well,I guess it is faster up to 100mph due to AWD,but loses after...

maomao911

i guess when the front engine decouples at 265km/h that's when the 918 felt like it hit a wall. On track, the P1 and 918 is probably neck to neck.

Der-Schwabe

Hmm. AMuS/sportauto hit 100 mph (160 km/h) in 5.1 seconds, 150 mph (240 km/h) in 10.1 seconds & 300 km/h in 19.1 seconds with the same press car (!!!) while autocar recorded much slower 5.7 seconds to 100 mph, 11.4 seconds to 150 mph and 29.7 seconds to 200 mph (320 km/h), also TopGear magazine recorded 5.0 seconds to 100 mph with the same press car, 0.7 seconds faster to 100 mph, yet there was only a 0.1 second delta to AMuS/sportauto figures. From what I could tell, autocar used race-mode rather than hotlap mode, why didn't they use hotlap mode when in a drag race such as this max. power is what you want...unless you wanted results go a certain way perhaps?

CarMaven

Yup Yup

Spot on!

Porsche needs to stop giving their cars to British Mags.

This video will be all over the internet and websites, and all the 918 superior testing over the P1 past the past year (and it's consistent numbers in general by various publications), and what you said here, will be quickly forgotten, or never discovered/understood by many to begin with.

And it's highly unlikely that McLaren will ever give their car to a Non British Mag or Journalist for a true H2H or fully instrumented test.

This is really appears to be a farce. But unfortunately, not a surprising one, considering the source.

maomao911

can we talk about the bike though?

Whoopsy

Even with a suboptimal 918, the P1 still needs almost a whole mile to catch up and pass, had the length of the race been any shorter, the P1 loses. I wonder why they didn't do a half mile test. Or maybe the American's favourite, 1/4 mile and 0-60.

Apart from the Le Mans circuit, I have yet to think of any other race track that stress the 150mph to 200mph range. Most stressed the 0-150 range.

P1 is good for fantasy numbers, 918 is good for real world numbers, track or road.

JS

918 all day over P1

Gravs

I think the 918 comes out of this very well. Does the electric motor really decouple at high speed? Why? And why doesn't the Mac's?

TopspeedPT

at 270km/h AFAIK

Whoopsy

Only the front motor disconnect above 265km/hr. The motor is a direct drive so it can't rev any faster. Dr. Walliser didn't spec a 2-speed gearbox for the front motor due to weight, and he deems trading top end performance for extra low and mid range punch is worth it, and he is right. How long do one stay above 265km/hr, even on a track?

The P1's e-motor is behind the transmission, same like the rear motor of the 918.

Stephen Pitts

The 918 and the P1 are both very, very impressive here. This video, by definition, focuses on the same narrow metric of comparing these two cars: which is fastest. Speed is undeniably a chief characteristic -- and supposedly "easy" to compare (although look at the debate above; and no one even discussed different road conditions!) -- but there are so many more characteristics that speak to the enjoyment of a car. And one wonders if Ferrari will forever hide its flagship car (sounds like a dying diva)... Its funny because I really like their cars but can't stand this refusal to enter the fray.

Anyhow, I don't really think the English press is overly biased here; they always showed the same when they reviewed stereo equipment I remember. There are a thousand different ways you could have conducted this test (both simpler and more involved) and the 918 would have won (the Ring obviously included) -- indeed, this is probably one of the very few tests that the P1 could win. The 918 has so much more to help it along including its ability to regenerate its battery.

Anyhow, bottom line: on a beautiful day, the enjoyment of a driving a CGT (which would have been left far behind on this test) is a tall challenge for either of these cars. But were I to chose between the P1 and 918, I agree with Whoopsy that you are just getting much, much more car with the 918 overall (and I have to be able to remove the top!), so that would be the choice for me (particularly as I already have the CGT which is more a "seat of the pants" car like the P1).

Der-Schwabe

There are certain journalists who seem to be unable or unwilling to re-appraise a vehicle from when it was first presented to them as a prototype such as SS (and CH) and use a drag race that was clearly conducted in a hamfisted fashion as a case in point. However, other journalists, such as the bunch at EVO, were able to not only track test (rather than just provide a rather one dimensional drag race as the backdrop) the vehicle and report despite difficulties (some manufacturer induced embargo (we both know what manufacturer that was)) that the 918 was faster on Anglesea race track than the P1 (HM of Evo confirmed this) but understood that the 918 was more than just fast & fun to 'cane around a track', not a one-trick-pony, if you like. When one of them (JB of Evo) was asked a few days back whether he still wanted the 918 he responded without hesitation:

"@Thecarmagdriver Still want the 918?
Jethro Bovingdon ‏@JethroBovingdon Oct 9
@Thecarmagdriver think 918 might be the best thing I've ever driven. Love P1 intensity/slidiness but quality of 918 experience incredible.
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Oskar Jansson ‏@oskarjansson777 14h14 hours ago
@JethroBovingdon okay but 918 or P1?
@oskarjansson777 918.
Jethro Bovingdon ‏@JethroBovingdon 13h13 hours ago
@oskarjansson777 918 evolved. Back to back Porsche has better engine, better box, steering and - to me - felt more special. P1 amazing, too."

Source: https://twitter.com/JethroBovingdon/with_replies

nuvolari612

You guys are sensitive / defensive over the 918.

It's a flat out race produced for you tube hits - tuners are getting 2000 hp 6 cylinder GTR new Veyron produces 1500 hp and new Tesla 691-hp / 687 lb-ft combo.

Personally - going 190+ mph in a street car without a roll cage helmet and HANS is moronic let alone with a motorcycle in the mix.