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08-03-2017, 06:50 PM
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I liken this post to an analogy of Max Verstappen and Daniel Ricciardo. Verstappen is probably faster than Ricciardo, but doesn't think ahead 2 steps and is worried about the moment. At the end of the day, Max has either lost positions because of a 1st lap mistake that cost him time in the pits or a DNF and Ricciardo has picked and chosen his time and moves wisely to make significant progress and has the long game in mind.
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08-04-2017, 10:28 AM
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Still think racing is a sport of supreme personal responsibility. One of the reasons why it's such a great challenge, and so rewarding.
08-04-2017, 10:29 AM
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Yep
08-05-2017, 07:04 AM
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If all racers behaved in this manner, then it wouldn't be racing, and thus the fire would die
08-05-2017, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by danielyonker
If all racers behaved in this manner, then it wouldn't be racing, and thus the fire would die
08-05-2017, 10:11 AM
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It's a fine line. Which is why it's not a slam-dunk and 17000+ views accumulate.
Brian Redman called successful racing "controlled aggression." Brilliant!
And I've seen you do it. VERY successfully, I might add.
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08-06-2017, 11:21 AM
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I admit that I could have been more patient and prudent with the timing of the pass and that I have a lot of work to do on my strategy and race-craft. I'll also repeat here that I share a large part of the blame/fault for the contact with the other car.
Having said that, the passing rules as they stand are still confusing and contradictory which is why I started the other thread/poll. I hope a discussion about them develops without the noise of accusations, drama, and innuendo.
08-06-2017, 03:47 PM
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I'm disappointed that many of the comments assigning some culpability to the 944 reinforce the idea that overtaken cars need to move out of the way to avoid contact with an overly aggressive passing car and driver.
That's just bull****. A rationalization for those incapable of making prudent decisions to pass.
My friend was trying to make it clear that I was not to be trusted to do the right thing, which made me reexamine what I was doing out there. It helped me realize that everyone has responsibilities out there and you shouldn't have to cover for someone else's stupidity.
The mixed class discussion is a separate deal entirely and worthy of other threads.
I'm disappointed that many of the comments assigning some culpability to the 944 reinforce the idea that overtaken cars need to move out of the way to avoid contact with an overly aggressive passing car and driver.
That's just bull****. A rationalization for those incapable of making prudent decisions to pass.
My friend was trying to make it clear that I was not to be trusted to do the right thing, which made me reexamine what I was doing out there. It helped me realize that everyone has responsibilities out there and you shouldn't have to cover for someone else's stupidity.
The mixed class discussion is a separate deal entirely and worthy of other threads.
Overtaken cars do NOT need to move out of the way.
That said, in THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE, both drivers share blame, and it's sad his wasn't just a rub out. I suspect that the OP's previous behavior and existing 13 played a part in that...and rightly so. He was a menace.
That said, in THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE, both drivers share blame, and it's sad his wasn't just a rub out. I suspect that the OP's previous behavior and existing 13 played a part in that...and rightly so. He was a menace.
To give some sense of closure, I'd like to thank everyone for the input and advice. A lot of food for thought in this thread.
I admit that I could have been more patient and prudent with the timing of the pass and that I have a lot of work to do on my strategy and race-craft. I'll also repeat here that I share a large part of the blame/fault for the contact with the other car.
Having said that, the passing rules as they stand are still confusing and contradictory which is why I started the other thread/poll. I hope a discussion about them develops without the noise of accusations, drama, and innuendo.
I admit that I could have been more patient and prudent with the timing of the pass and that I have a lot of work to do on my strategy and race-craft. I'll also repeat here that I share a large part of the blame/fault for the contact with the other car.
Having said that, the passing rules as they stand are still confusing and contradictory which is why I started the other thread/poll. I hope a discussion about them develops without the noise of accusations, drama, and innuendo.
08-06-2017, 07:43 PM
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To give some sense of closure, I'd like to thank everyone for the input and advice. A lot of food for thought in this thread.
I admit that I could have been more patient and prudent with the timing of the pass and that I have a lot of work to do on my strategy and race-craft. I'll also repeat here that I share a large part of the blame/fault for the contact with the other car.
Having said that, the passing rules as they stand are still confusing and contradictory which is why I started the other thread/poll. I hope a discussion about them develops without the noise of accusations, drama, and innuendo.
I admit that I could have been more patient and prudent with the timing of the pass and that I have a lot of work to do on my strategy and race-craft. I'll also repeat here that I share a large part of the blame/fault for the contact with the other car.
Having said that, the passing rules as they stand are still confusing and contradictory which is why I started the other thread/poll. I hope a discussion about them develops without the noise of accusations, drama, and innuendo.
As far as the rules, I don't disagree that a simple one sentence about overlap could be added that was proposed in the other thread (and not a word more to avoid complicating things), HOWEVER, the same people that take advantage of current rules (or have a hard time following them - I'm not beating YOU up here as everyone makes mistakes) will find a way to take advantage of a new one or make poor decisions regardless.
PS, I don't see the addition as a change to the current rule, but rather a clarity enhancement.
08-06-2017, 11:24 PM
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Don't worry, never happen. Too many racers are too ******* arrogant and know more than everybody else. The fire is within yourself so if the fire goes out it is your fault.
08-07-2017, 11:53 AM
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I thought you guys might need a little break after 24 pages:
08-07-2017, 01:17 PM
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