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Yeah, that had me screaming at the television when they showed him weaving down the straight. It was clear he wasn't going to stop blocking under breaking. Flashbacks to 2016 with Kimi.
Can't say I 'enjoyed' the race, but it certainly held my attention. The drivers similarly seemed like they were mentally spent at the end, but didn't have a lot of fun - even Lewis had a 'WTF am I doing up here?' look. I'll go out on a limb and opine that, while Max is certainly crazy, the bang up at the end was more Danny's fault - I didn't see a legit gap on the left side, even if Max moved a little while braking.
ESPN coverage is getting better, but they're not there yet.
Fun race to watch. I’m a Ferrari fan so sad to see Seb finish where he did, but awesome to see Kimi continuing to get strong finishes while Ferrari is clearly favoring Seb. I wonder if that would change if Kimi is suddenly ahead in points with Seb making mistakes.
Personally, I’m getting a bit tired of Max. Every single race he has hit somebody or caused an accident. I’m all for passing and excitement, but at some point either the team or FIA needs to step in. It’s his 3rd year - the whole argument of I’m new is well done.
And Grosjean should be banned from the series after today...
I'll go out on a limb and opine that, while Max is certainly crazy, the bang up at the end was more Danny's fault - I didn't see a legit gap on the left side, even if Max moved a little while braking. .
Danny went back to the inside once Max went right....
Danny went back to the inside once Max went right....
I can't disagree with your application of the reg. I'm just not sure that Danny had enough room on the left even if Max hadn't moved. Seems like a high-risk move on Danny's part, and it obviously didn't work out.
Given car trajectories before Max changed trajectory the third time (which is really all that matters. He picked a line then another one to block and then another to reblock) RIC had room and I bolster that opinion with the fact that RIC went for it and I trust his judgment. Statements from Horner are just PR damage control.
If the same guy keeps ending up with a damaged car eventually you have to start staring really hard at that guy instead of looking really hard at anything that isn't that guy.
I can't disagree with your application of the reg. I'm just not sure that Danny had enough room on the left even if Max hadn't moved. Seems like a high-risk move on Danny's part, and it obviously didn't work out.
Not only should Max be penalized for the next race for making two moves instead of the one allowed, but I swear it almost looked like he ‘brake checked’ Ricciardo. The telemetry would show it, and if he did RB should be super pissed!
Given car trajectories before Max changed trajectory the third time (which is really all that matters. He picked a line then another one to block and then another to reblock) RIC had room and I bolster that opinion with the fact that RIC went for it and I trust his judgment. Statements from Horner are just PR damage control.
If the same guy keeps ending up with a damaged car eventually you have to start staring really hard at that guy instead of looking really hard at anything that isn't that guy.
Agreed. Add to that the fact that DR had a faster car all day and Max used multiple dumbass moves to try and keep his position. It’s a wonder he didn’t take them both out much earlier.
Reading the rules it doesn't say "but if it is a tiny move that makes it OK." Max moved twice and that is the end of the story.
Additionally, all the drivers know you are taking a big chance when trying to pass Max because there is a good chance he is going to crash you out of the race. Max had at least one incident before the crash where Ricciardo backed out because he just turned into him. True, you don't need to let someone pass you but I think Max is a blocker and dirty racer and it helps him to win.
Max needs to grow up if he ever wants to fulfill his destiny to become a WC driver, or at least learn how to drive a little more like Schumacher if he is going to be that aggressive.
Not only should Max be penalized for the next race for making two moves instead of the one allowed, but I swear it almost looked like he ‘brake checked’ Ricciardo. The telemetry would show it, and if he did RB should be super pissed!
I think that's an optical illusion and not a brake check. Once VER moved back over to the left, it took the down force of RIC car, coupled with RIC locking up, the close in rate was much higher than normal. Still, given the "reprimand" by the FIA to both drivers, it's hard to back a decision to not penalize Max given he clearly broke the rule and they acknowledge he moved twice. It's pretty simple, if he doesn't move twice, the accident doesn't happen.
1) I get the impression that his attitude is "How dare there are other people driving on my track" and that nothing is ever his fault
2) I believe he was immediately favored over DR even though DR proved himself quite worthy by besting SV when the two were teammates
3) Even though MV did turn out to be better than Sainz when they were at Torro Rosso, I was never convinced that he was was special like Hamilton or Alonso by his performances
4) I'm always suspicious of giving a really young driver (or just plain rookie driver) top-tier equipment for the very reasons that we're seeing today
5) I know he's been considered one of the great natural talents, but I'm not sure how much of that extra speed he finds over one lap or one corner is simply his willingness to be an idiot and wad the car up. Rhetorical question: How many other drivers could do what MV does if they were simply more reckless and does that make him more talent or foolhardy or both?
I hated Senna for this type of nonsense, I despised Schumacher when he pulled this ****, and nothing has changed. With all this in mind, I don't understand why more severe penalties have not been handed down (both now and prior to this event). You don't want to subdue the racing but there's a difference between addressing a menace and policing racing incidents.
04-29-2018, 04:16 PM
