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06-20-2020, 05:16 PM
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06-20-2020, 05:18 PM
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06-20-2020, 06:41 PM
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C'mon, Peter, they did actually install towel dispensers in the bathroom that actually function 
06-20-2020, 06:53 PM
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06-20-2020, 07:04 PM
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Serious question - I've only been into this hobby for 3 years, so I don't know the answer... Why isn't it standard operating procedure with all clubs / organizers / tracks that cars are not allowed to have coolant in them? PCA mandates this for all Mezger-engine cars, but I've seen first hand that just about any car is liable to dump its coolant on track. There's at least a couple coolant spills each season at Mosport, and I don't know that any I've seen first hand were Mezger-engine cars.
For the $140 it costs to flush coolant & refill with distilled water + water wetter in the spring, and then go back to coolant at end of season for storage, it seems like a no brainer. Genuinely curious why the no-coolant rule hasn't been adopted at a rate much higher than just Mezger cars.
For the $140 it costs to flush coolant & refill with distilled water + water wetter in the spring, and then go back to coolant at end of season for storage, it seems like a no brainer. Genuinely curious why the no-coolant rule hasn't been adopted at a rate much higher than just Mezger cars.
06-20-2020, 07:29 PM
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I SEEM to remember an amazing video... must be super 8 or something .. from a 70s race a mid-o, in the rain .. i think it was a transam race.. where cars just kept flying off the road, at same spot one after the other..... literally for 5-10 minutes. they just kept on slamming into one another.... anyone recall?
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06-20-2020, 08:02 PM
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thanks mike. exactly what i remember ... just cars plowing in, past the tree line so you could not see the pileup... never been to MIDO but sounds gnarly. SVRA is there next week and i was thinking about it..
06-20-2020, 08:08 PM
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06-20-2020, 08:55 PM
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A certain very famous driver had some "history" there--1971:
Lexington, Ohio. August 22.
Virtually identical half-shaft breakages eliminated Team Gulf McLaren from the fifth Can-Am round at the Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, 70 miles south of Cleveland and paved the way for Jackie Stewart to cruise to his second victory of the year in the Johnson Wax-sponsored Group 7 Series in America. Half of the World Champion’s opposition was dramatically ousted on the opening lap when Denis Hulme had his right drive shaft snap a U-joint under braking for the very first turn, generating instant chaos throughout the 27-car field. Hulme’s ensuring gyrations gathered up several first division contenders, including the McLarens of Motschenbacher, Brown, Adamowicz, and Dutton. Dave Causey dealt the works M8F a death blow amidships with his T222 Lola, and the later retirements of both Motschenbacher and Brown may well have been caused by their having taken to the grass verge in a frantic series of phenomenal avoidances.
But the race was almost overshadowed by events which took place during practice. Appalled at the atrocious condition of the tight and narrow 2.4 miles that make up the mid-western US circuit, Stewart threatened to withdraw rather than risk what he termed a “heartrending incident”. And Tony Dean added considerable weight to cries of “unsafe” and “dangerous”, when he spun off in the same spot that Hulme was to make famous. Dean was unhurt but the McLaren’s tub was badly bent and must undergo an extensive re-build before its return to the Can-Am wars. In addition, various suspension breakages on both Stewart’s and Revson’s cars prompted Carl Haas and Teddy Mayer to petition the Stewards of the Meeting to have the race distance shortened from its intended 80 laps (192 miles) to a reported 50 to guarantee some finishers, but after consideration they announced that 80 laps it would be. Stewart reversed his decision not to run, but revealed later that he had agreed with Haas to drive for a finish only.
After the first-lap incident, Revson took the lead for Team McLaren and had little trouble staying in front. He pulled steadily ahead to where there was a secure 20-second interval before the Lola passed by, when his right half-shaft let go at the back of the course near the Valvoline bridge. Only 8 laps remained at the time, and, with his 2-lap edge over Siffert in the STP Porsche-Audi, Stewart simply stroked his way to the chequered flag. Adamowicz was third in the Jerobee Industries McLaren, Herbert Muller followed in his 512M Ferrari, Chuck Parsons was fifth in the Overhauser T160 Lola, and Milt Minter sixth in Vasek Polak’s 917 Porsche Spyder.
Statistics show the race completed in a time of 2 hours 16.763 sec. at an average speed of 95.777 m.p.h., and Revson was awarded f.t.d. honours for his performance on lap 49–a time of 1 min. 28.0 sec. (98.18 m.p.h.).
The Mid-Ohio race marked the end of the first half of the 10-race schedule, and, with drivers permitted to count only their four best finishes out of five, the top ten were as follows:
1st: Peter Revson, 67 pts.; 2nd: Denis Hulme, 65 pts.; 3rd: Jackie Stewart, 40 pts.; 4th: Lothar Motschenbacher, 32 pts.; 5th: Tony Adamowicz, 30 pts.; 6th: Jo Siffert, 27 pts.; 7th: Chuck Parsons, 18 pts.; 8th: Milt Minter, 17 pts.; 9th: Bob Bondurant, 10 pts.; 10th: Mario Andretti, 10 pts.
Lexington, Ohio. August 22.
Virtually identical half-shaft breakages eliminated Team Gulf McLaren from the fifth Can-Am round at the Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, 70 miles south of Cleveland and paved the way for Jackie Stewart to cruise to his second victory of the year in the Johnson Wax-sponsored Group 7 Series in America. Half of the World Champion’s opposition was dramatically ousted on the opening lap when Denis Hulme had his right drive shaft snap a U-joint under braking for the very first turn, generating instant chaos throughout the 27-car field. Hulme’s ensuring gyrations gathered up several first division contenders, including the McLarens of Motschenbacher, Brown, Adamowicz, and Dutton. Dave Causey dealt the works M8F a death blow amidships with his T222 Lola, and the later retirements of both Motschenbacher and Brown may well have been caused by their having taken to the grass verge in a frantic series of phenomenal avoidances.
But the race was almost overshadowed by events which took place during practice. Appalled at the atrocious condition of the tight and narrow 2.4 miles that make up the mid-western US circuit, Stewart threatened to withdraw rather than risk what he termed a “heartrending incident”. And Tony Dean added considerable weight to cries of “unsafe” and “dangerous”, when he spun off in the same spot that Hulme was to make famous. Dean was unhurt but the McLaren’s tub was badly bent and must undergo an extensive re-build before its return to the Can-Am wars. In addition, various suspension breakages on both Stewart’s and Revson’s cars prompted Carl Haas and Teddy Mayer to petition the Stewards of the Meeting to have the race distance shortened from its intended 80 laps (192 miles) to a reported 50 to guarantee some finishers, but after consideration they announced that 80 laps it would be. Stewart reversed his decision not to run, but revealed later that he had agreed with Haas to drive for a finish only.
After the first-lap incident, Revson took the lead for Team McLaren and had little trouble staying in front. He pulled steadily ahead to where there was a secure 20-second interval before the Lola passed by, when his right half-shaft let go at the back of the course near the Valvoline bridge. Only 8 laps remained at the time, and, with his 2-lap edge over Siffert in the STP Porsche-Audi, Stewart simply stroked his way to the chequered flag. Adamowicz was third in the Jerobee Industries McLaren, Herbert Muller followed in his 512M Ferrari, Chuck Parsons was fifth in the Overhauser T160 Lola, and Milt Minter sixth in Vasek Polak’s 917 Porsche Spyder.
Statistics show the race completed in a time of 2 hours 16.763 sec. at an average speed of 95.777 m.p.h., and Revson was awarded f.t.d. honours for his performance on lap 49–a time of 1 min. 28.0 sec. (98.18 m.p.h.).
The Mid-Ohio race marked the end of the first half of the 10-race schedule, and, with drivers permitted to count only their four best finishes out of five, the top ten were as follows:
1st: Peter Revson, 67 pts.; 2nd: Denis Hulme, 65 pts.; 3rd: Jackie Stewart, 40 pts.; 4th: Lothar Motschenbacher, 32 pts.; 5th: Tony Adamowicz, 30 pts.; 6th: Jo Siffert, 27 pts.; 7th: Chuck Parsons, 18 pts.; 8th: Milt Minter, 17 pts.; 9th: Bob Bondurant, 10 pts.; 10th: Mario Andretti, 10 pts.
06-22-2020, 03:32 PM
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1st: Peter Revson, 67 pts.; 2nd: Denis Hulme, 65 pts.; 3rd: Jackie Stewart, 40 pts.; 4th: Lothar Motschenbacher, 32 pts.; 5th: Tony Adamowicz, 30 pts.; 6th: Jo Siffert, 27 pts.; 7th: Chuck Parsons, 18 pts.; 8th: Milt Minter, 17 pts.; 9th: Bob Bondurant, 10 pts.; 10th: Mario Andretti, 10 pts.
06-22-2020, 03:49 PM
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Mid-O is a great teacher about anticipating and adapting to a low grip surface. I will be bummed when it eventually gets repaved.
To the OP, been there, done that. Same spot on oil. You were very lucky - glad that you walked away!
To the OP, been there, done that. Same spot on oil. You were very lucky - glad that you walked away!
06-22-2020, 04:15 PM
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I had a young kid in the car who was
trying to get into performance driving. His parents asked/OKed it and it started raining on the back straight, so I slowed up to head in. I slid off right there going straight!! No harm other than filling the car with wet grass that my splitter mowed and scaring my passenger a bit.
06-22-2020, 04:36 PM
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This!!
I had a young kid in the car who was
trying to get into performance driving. His parents asked/OKed it and it started raining on the back straight, so I slowed up to head in. I slid off right there going straight!! No harm other than filling the car with wet grass that my splitter mowed and scaring my passenger a bit.
I had a young kid in the car who was
trying to get into performance driving. His parents asked/OKed it and it started raining on the back straight, so I slowed up to head in. I slid off right there going straight!! No harm other than filling the car with wet grass that my splitter mowed and scaring my passenger a bit.
. Glad no injuries were sustained.
