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I need some advice on when a dedicated track car makes sense. I have 991.1 GT3 that I currently track 2-3 times per year and would like to increase this to 5-6 times a year. If I am going to do this, I need to make safety upgrades as well as upgrades to the brakes to replace the PCCB's. Looking around, you can find a GT4 Clubsport for 110 to 130k that has a full cage and dedicated track parts. The only real negative is losing the sound of the GT3 engine at 9k rpm. I also have a 981 Cayman GTS manual that I love to drive on the street. I don't need 3 cars so if I buy a dedicated track car, one of other 2 will go in as trade or will be sold.
Would love to hear from those that have gone down this path and if you have any regrets or some insight on what would make sense to you. Thanks!
I tracked a 981S for years. Also track a 991.2 GT3 MT. (Agree on the roar at 9K).
I know this is sacrilege, but I may, just may, have enjoyed the Cayman a little more .
The Clubsport is a track car, and only a track car. Fully set up straight out of the factory. Never tracked one, only my 981S, but if you know the Cayman platform and enjoy the Cayman platform, well...........
I say buy all 3, keep all 3, track all 3, and love all 3. Living the dream.
When you are ready for a dedicated track car, it always makes sense. Nothing like a real race car to keep you safe, make you happy, and teach you a lot about uncompromising performance.
I've had 2 - my 993 which I bought as a lightly used club racer, then my current (and - ahem - for sale) Cayman, which we built from a pristine 2009 S.
The experience is so much greater when you own a real race car. I loved every minute of it.
I need some advice on when a dedicated track car makes sense. I have 991.1 GT3 that I currently track 2-3 times per year and would like to increase this to 5-6 times a year. If I am going to do this, I need to make safety upgrades as well as upgrades to the brakes to replace the PCCB's. Looking around, you can find a GT4 Clubsport for 110 to 130k that has a full cage and dedicated track parts. The only real negative is losing the sound of the GT3 engine at 9k rpm. I also have a 981 Cayman GTS manual that I love to drive on the street. I don't need 3 cars so if I buy a dedicated track car, one of other 2 will go in as trade or will be sold.
Would love to hear from those that have gone down this path and if you have any regrets or some insight on what would make sense to you. Thanks!
IMO, the 981 GT4 ClubSport is one of the finest track cars based on a street car platform. Ever.
Recommended highly. It's a fabulous, precision tool with safety to boot.
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IMO, the 981 GT4 ClubSport is one of the finest track cars based on a street car platform. Ever.
Recommended highly. It's a fabulous, precision tool with safety to boot.
Glad to hear your opinion Peter as I bought a 981 Clubsport with most of the MR changes, JRZ three way race Motorsport shocks, a 4.25l engine with COBB tune, and other goodies! Spring can't come fast enough.
Do you know if people are running the Stability and Traction control on or off? I usually ran Sport Plus with the nannies off on my converted 981S but I am wonder how the more race versions relate to the street versions.
Mark, in the Trophy East Series for the first two years, racers were instructed (required, and checked on the MoTeC data in scrutineering and post-incident review) to keep both of them on.
Even with the pros (Jason Hart, Andrew Davis) it didn’t slow anyone down...
When you are ready for a dedicated track car, it always makes sense. Nothing like a real race car to keep you safe, make you happy, and teach you a lot about uncompromising performance.
I've had 2 - my 993 which I bought as a lightly used club racer, then my current (and - ahem - for sale) Cayman, which we built from a pristine 2009 S.
The experience is so much greater when you own a real race car. I loved every minute of it.
If you dont mind me asking what does it cost to run this car and a clubsport for a track day weekend (not racing).
I recently sold my street car and have been contemplating going with a full track car, coming from a race car (SpecRacerFordGen3) i feel i wouldnt feel safe in nothing but a fully caged race car. The only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger is the amount of days i will be doing, if you are only doing 5-6 days a year does it make sense to have that sitting around the rest of the year.
I need some advice on when a dedicated track car makes sense. I have 991.1 GT3 that I currently track 2-3 times per year and would like to increase this to 5-6 times a year. If I am going to do this, I need to make safety upgrades as well as upgrades to the brakes to replace the PCCB's. Looking around, you can find a GT4 Clubsport for 110 to 130k that has a full cage and dedicated track parts. The only real negative is losing the sound of the GT3 engine at 9k rpm. I also have a 981 Cayman GTS manual that I love to drive on the street. I don't need 3 cars so if I buy a dedicated track car, one of other 2 will go in as trade or will be sold.
Would love to hear from those that have gone down this path and if you have any regrets or some insight on what would make sense to you. Thanks!
You can't beat a factory race car in terms of safety and reliability. The only real problem is finding Clubsports that have not been crashed/repaired and have been properly maintained. A lot of people have treated them like street cars in terms of maintenance and that just doesn't work. You'll also need a trailer and tow vehicle.
I started by tracking a street car, quickly realized the compromise in safety, etc in not having a dedicated track car. Thus, searched for properly prepared and maintained race car for HPDEs only, not racing. Once I started driving the Cayman fully developed car, never went back, even sold my Porsche street car as it seemed boring. I recently spent 6-8 months watching various Clubsports across the US and some in Europe looking for a hidden gem at your price point. It never happened, they were all road hard and seemed to be hiding something, too many unknowns. I believe you have to pay more for a proactively maintained Clubsport with low mileage for best predictability and reliability. BTW: if interested in wonderful track toy at a lower budget, check out my car for sale. https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1217073
You can't beat a factory race car in terms of safety and reliability. The only real problem is finding Clubsports that have not been crashed/repaired and have been properly maintained. A lot of people have treated them like street cars in terms of maintenance and that just doesn't work. You'll also need a trailer and tow vehicle.
I've got the trailer and tow vehicle as I currently trailer my GT3 to the track. I was hoping to find one for my budget but sounds like I need to up it 25 to 40k to get something that will work. Thanks for response.
12-18-2020, 10:08 AM
GT4 Clubsport as a Dedicated Track Car?
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