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Old 04-24-2021, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 85Gold
Only on RL does a person come looking for a sub $40k car and get told to spend over twice as much for a GT4.

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I thought the standard advice was two cup cars.
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Old 04-24-2021, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 85Gold
Only on RL does a person come looking for a sub $40k car and get told to spend over twice as much for a GT4.

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I agree, but just some context to why I gave my answer. I have a 2017 Targa GTS that I tracked for 2 years. It is reliable and comfortable to drive to the track and fast. Last year I started converting a 2004 911 to a track car and bought trailer etc. It now has full cage and more with a lot of money in it. I wouldnt not call it reliable yet as I keep spending money on it for something or another each time. Last month at Barber, my new 200 cell cats failed on track and then my truck had a failed lifter towing it back when I was half way home. I had to get someone to drive 2 hours from home and pick me up and tow my trailer/car back from a parking lot I satcin for 4 hours at 11PM on a Sunday. Then I had to get a tow truck to come get my truck the next day. I now have the 911 back together and waiting on truck to be fixed, hopefully, by Thursday so i can use it to tow to VIR. This is why I gave my answer of just buy GT4 and track insurance if want reliable. I also would cal a GT4 liquid as well much more than a 20 year old track car.
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Originally Posted by 85Gold
Only on RL does a person come looking for a sub $40k car and get told to spend over twice as much for a GT4.

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I was going to suggest a Mini but thought I might get banned
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Old 04-24-2021, 06:56 PM
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2009-2012 Cayman S black edition

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10 more HP than standard S

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Old 04-24-2021, 09:05 PM
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I've got my eye on the boxter gts 4.0



Old 04-25-2021, 01:12 AM
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I would say Honda S2000 or a E36/E46 M3. Buy one fully caged and done. I have 2 E36 M3's that I race with my son. Look for S54 swapped ones if you can. The S2000 is a bulletproof track car that is really fast. My son is as fast as any Cayman at our track except the clubsports and guys running hoosiers on their GT4s. Both the BMW and S2000's seem to be cheaper than a Cayman for consumables (I have had a 981 and 987 Cayman for the track in the past as well). Good luck!
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^ Agreed. Honda S2000 is a great suggestion. I currently track an S54 swapped E36 and can keep up with most everything. The E46 M3 allows you to run larger tires stock vs the E36 and is a more modern car obviously if you prefer that...and don't have to deal with an engine swap to get the +100hp on the E36.

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Another S2000 vote here. Can build a perfect track day car for $30k. Very quick. Very rewarding drive. Low consumables.
Old 04-25-2021, 12:54 PM
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Any Cayman. Besides being a great track car, you can fit an absurd amount of stuff in it. It’s like a clown car for track crap.
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Another great track car is a Camaro SS 1LE. Reliable, new, fast and relatively inexpensive.
Old 04-25-2021, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JSETarga
Another great track car is a Camaro SS 1LE. Reliable, new, fast and relatively inexpensive.
SS 1LE is a great car for the money as long as you know your consumables will be like owning a cup car. I had a ZL1 1LE for 3 months. Went through a set of tires every 2 days on the track. Pads were lasting 4 days. Just too heavy. They are fast and fun though!
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Originally Posted by SamGrant951
^ Agreed. Honda S2000 is a great suggestion. I currently track an S54 swapped E36 and can keep up with most everything. The E46 M3 allows you to run larger tires stock vs the E36 and is a more modern car obviously if you prefer that...and don't have to deal with an engine swap to get the +100hp on the E36.
Our E36 have the fenders cut and extended so we can run Michelin 27/64/18's square. The nice thing about a stripped E36 is it weighs 200 lbs less than a stripped e46. We have 7-8 of them that run in our race series at the local track and the e36's are faster than the E46's (all of the E36s have S54 swaps). Last race for the season here yesterday in AZ. E36 won the 7 race series. Next year will be tougher though. Several members have been buying GT4 clubsports which will make it more interesting. Here is a pic of my M3 an my son's s2000





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Originally Posted by nowata
I’m looking for a car I can drive to and on track for HPDE

And I am prioritizing reliability and liquidity

and while I’d love a gt4 I can’t bring myself to track something so valuable without insurance

so can I get some sub-$40k recommendations? And I’ll certainly consider non P cars but I really can’t think of many attractive options

or have track days become the world of “wrench your wreck” or drive a Gt car?
Spec Miata. You can get a very nice, competitive, used, NB Spec Miata with a current SCCA logbook for about $25 to $30k these days. In my opinion, there probably aren't any better track/race cars out there for the money.
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Old 04-25-2021, 11:50 PM
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awesome livery
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E92 M3 with the V8.
Camber plates, rod bearings, maybe a f8x or essex/pfc BBK and a set of apex wheels and you have a pretty solid track car.


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