Planning on attending first DE event
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I recently subscribed to Grassroots Motorsports and the latest daily newsletter had something that might interest you. A broader look at the move (slide?) to tracking your car. Note that you likely do have to subscribe ($3 a month?) to see this, but I still thought it worth noting for you.
#TBT | Get on track in 10 easy steps | Articles | Grassroots Motorsports
Glad you are well and able to pursue this! Good luck!
#TBT | Get on track in 10 easy steps | Articles | Grassroots Motorsports
Glad you are well and able to pursue this! Good luck!
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ProCoach (01-25-2024)
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Speed Secrets by Ross Bentley is a good read before hitting the track.
Watch Youtube videos of people driving the track, most certainly someone with the same car you have will have recorded in car footage - good for getting an idea of the lines and what gear to be in.
A tote that fits in the frunk is super helpful and can be picked up from Home Depot for cheap.
Things to put inside:
towel, sunscreen, torque wrench, window cleaner, some type of cloths (microfiber/terry/blue paper), garbage bags, tarp if you aren’t going to rent a garage, folding chair, quart of oil, case of water.
Often clubs/tracks require long sleeves and pants when on track, bring something light and breathable, something you can quickly throw on over top shorts/tshirt for a session and then off afterwards.
Shoes- any sneakers will do but make sure that they aren’t too clunky or have huge soles like what the kids are wearing these days. I have driving shoes that I wear for the sessions but then swap to crocs/flip flops in between.
Once you get to the track, say hello to the folks next to you in the paddock, tell them it’s your first time, get to know them. Two of my closest friends I met at my first DE and our group has continued to expand as we welcome in more newcomers - DE weekends really are such a fantastic experience, enjoy!
Watch Youtube videos of people driving the track, most certainly someone with the same car you have will have recorded in car footage - good for getting an idea of the lines and what gear to be in.
A tote that fits in the frunk is super helpful and can be picked up from Home Depot for cheap.
Things to put inside:
towel, sunscreen, torque wrench, window cleaner, some type of cloths (microfiber/terry/blue paper), garbage bags, tarp if you aren’t going to rent a garage, folding chair, quart of oil, case of water.
Often clubs/tracks require long sleeves and pants when on track, bring something light and breathable, something you can quickly throw on over top shorts/tshirt for a session and then off afterwards.
Shoes- any sneakers will do but make sure that they aren’t too clunky or have huge soles like what the kids are wearing these days. I have driving shoes that I wear for the sessions but then swap to crocs/flip flops in between.
Once you get to the track, say hello to the folks next to you in the paddock, tell them it’s your first time, get to know them. Two of my closest friends I met at my first DE and our group has continued to expand as we welcome in more newcomers - DE weekends really are such a fantastic experience, enjoy!
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I think you should take the GT3, it will be very communicative and "easy" to drive - it's a dream machine on track - it will absolutely spoil you for anything other than a factory race car. It is fast but if I was your instructor I would have you bring up the speed very slowly. Not that there is anything wrong with the C4S but it is a totally different car and I would expect it to be less confidence inspiring than the GT3. As previously stated - make sure the GT3 is full PPF and ideally has a windshield tear-off. The one weakness of the GT3 is that you might find you are behind other drivers a bit more and get a cracked windshield (comical how many of those my buddies and I had last summer). I have instructed novices in a GT3 a couple times before and it's fine. You may want to check with the chief instructor for the days you are going - are the other novices in porsche GT cars and full-cage race cars and 911 turbos -take the GT3, or are they in 944s and C4s and Boxsters -take the C4. It's a little easier to manage if you aren't in a lot slower or faster car than most. But these are all details and you should have a blast either way and frankly both cars are potentially extremely fast. Deciding to do my first DE (in a base 1974 911 TARGA!) was one of the best decisions I ever made.
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I am in a similar situation to JohnC4S. I signed up for our Sacramento Region Autocross school in March. I was looking at a Snell SA2020 open-face helmet. I have never been near a track and would like to know why you suggest a close face helmet. I was planning to drive with the windows up. Is that not the case? Naturally, I have a tire pressure gauge, but why do I need a torque wrench?
As far as the open-face helmet is concerned, Conquer and Zamp sell the SA 2020 helmet. There is a $50 difference Is the Conquer worth the higher price?
Thanks
As far as the open-face helmet is concerned, Conquer and Zamp sell the SA 2020 helmet. There is a $50 difference Is the Conquer worth the higher price?
Thanks
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I am in a similar situation to JohnC4S. I signed up for our Sacramento Region Autocross school in March. I was looking at a Snell SA2020 open-face helmet. I have never been near a track and would like to know why you suggest a close face helmet. I was planning to drive with the windows up. Is that not the case? Naturally, I have a tire pressure gauge, but why do I need a torque wrench?
As far as the open-face helmet is concerned, Conquer and Zamp sell the SA 2020 helmet. There is a $50 difference Is the Conquer worth the higher price?
Thanks
As far as the open-face helmet is concerned, Conquer and Zamp sell the SA 2020 helmet. There is a $50 difference Is the Conquer worth the higher price?
Thanks
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I am in a similar situation to JohnC4S. I signed up for our Sacramento Region Autocross school in March. I was looking at a Snell SA2020 open-face helmet. I have never been near a track and would like to know why you suggest a close face helmet. I was planning to drive with the windows up. Is that not the case? Naturally, I have a tire pressure gauge, but why do I need a torque wrench?
As far as the open-face helmet is concerned, Conquer and Zamp sell the SA 2020 helmet. There is a $50 difference Is the Conquer worth the higher price?
Thanks
As far as the open-face helmet is concerned, Conquer and Zamp sell the SA 2020 helmet. There is a $50 difference Is the Conquer worth the higher price?
Thanks
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I am in a similar situation to JohnC4S. I signed up for our Sacramento Region Autocross school in March. I was looking at a Snell SA2020 open-face helmet. I have never been near a track and would like to know why you suggest a close face helmet. I was planning to drive with the windows up. Is that not the case? Naturally, I have a tire pressure gauge, but why do I need a torque wrench?
As far as the open-face helmet is concerned, Conquer and Zamp sell the SA 2020 helmet. There is a $50 difference Is the Conquer worth the higher price?
Thanks
As far as the open-face helmet is concerned, Conquer and Zamp sell the SA 2020 helmet. There is a $50 difference Is the Conquer worth the higher price?
Thanks
All AX and DE events I have been to require windows down. There is a thread on this......
You don't own a torque wrench? You should be checking your wheel bolt torques before/during/after events. If you don't want to buy one, find a friend who will let you use theirs at the event. Tech inspection at AX events expects you to have checked your wheel bolt torques. Unlike DE events, there are people (other drivers) standing out on the course assuming you won't ever lose a wheel.
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All good advice on this thread.
Here is the reality of your first track - you are going to have a ton of fun and be overwhelmed at the same time.
Where is my classroom? Who is my instructor? When and where do I meet my instructor? Where do I grid? When do I find time to get lunch and go to the bathroom? Where do I park? Etc. Etc. Etc.
For your first track event you should listen, ask questions, stay hydrated and have fun. The next time you go you can build on what you learned the previous track days and it becomes easier and more enjoyable.
Good luck!
Here is the reality of your first track - you are going to have a ton of fun and be overwhelmed at the same time.
Where is my classroom? Who is my instructor? When and where do I meet my instructor? Where do I grid? When do I find time to get lunch and go to the bathroom? Where do I park? Etc. Etc. Etc.
For your first track event you should listen, ask questions, stay hydrated and have fun. The next time you go you can build on what you learned the previous track days and it becomes easier and more enjoyable.
Good luck!
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price should never be the primary deciding factor on safety equipment. that being said you don't need a $1,000 carbon helmet but you also don't want the cheapest thing you can find. much like other things in my life i am contemplating purchasing i stick with the well known major bands until i have, what i feel, is adequate knowledge of brands unknown to the general public. HJC, Bell and G-Force are some well known brands with products covering the price spectrum. as posted fit is imperative and can vary greatly between brands. best method is to try on prior to purchase.
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Thanks for the information. I understand that trying on a helmet is the best way to ensure a proper fit. However, I have no idea where to find a brick and mortar merchant that is not 200 miles or more away. I live in the Sacramento, CA area. Any suggestoins?
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Thanks for the response. If I understand your point, those manufacturers to sell the lower cost Snell SA 2020 helmets do not make the same quality helmet as do HJC, Bell and G-Force. Is that the point?
Fifty years go, when I use to jump out of small planes I used a Bell helmet. I still have it, but it is very old fashioned and would probably not meet any modern standards.
Thanks
Fifty years go, when I use to jump out of small planes I used a Bell helmet. I still have it, but it is very old fashioned and would probably not meet any modern standards.
Thanks
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Another option might be Amazon - follow the fitting guide and be ready to send back immediately for exchange as needed.
Amazon.com: RaceQuip Full Face Helmet PRO20 Series Snell SA2020 Rated Gloss White X-Large 276116 : Automotive
Good luck!
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Im on the wrong coast and dont really know my CA geography but is Wine Country in Sonoma anywhere near u?
https://winecountrymotorsports.com/
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