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Typical California asssholes being typical California asssholes.
Sadly, half of them have moved to Austin
Pretty broad brush, guy. Not only does CA have millions of replublicans, I don't think there's a link between liberalism and the uber rich country club types who bought land next to Laguna Seca.
I think Fox has gotten you so worked up about the enemies (real or imagined) that any time you hear about something you don't like you immediately think of "those damned democrats." Remember when you could distinguish between our actual differences like foreign policy, tax policy, and civil liberties. Back when our voting preference didn't indicate we had devil horns and abuse children in a non-existent pizza parlor basement? 3 of my best friends are extremely right wing and politically we have nothing in common. We met through work, attended each others' weddings, care for each other like brothers and there's literally nothing about our political differences that ever comes into play. Point being there's no need to think of half the country as your sworn enemy. I know by the law of averages that you have friends and family who are on the opposite end of the spectrum than you and you have seen that they're good honest people too.
It would be easy for me to dismiss you as some Texas crackpot who's actively working to rewrite the nation's textbooks with garbage about "the real cause of the northern aggression" and "intelligent design" but you could actually be well educated and decent and the kinda guy who helps your neighbor and cares for your family. You know, all the stuff that actually makes you a decent person. If you go back to the things we actually disagree about: taxes, foreign policy, civil liberties, etc, none of those makes a person good or evil. Two reasonable people can find themselves on opposite sides of each one of those opinions.
So back to the actual topic of this thread, far removed from the BS that has nothing to do with anything, I can tell you that I (someone who grew up in TX and hated it, someone who lives in a big city in CA, someone who votes Blue, someone who hates Trump more than anyone ever hated anyone else) think these guys who are suing Laguna are in the wrong and I hope they're laughed out of court and ideally counter sued.
Sounds the same as the Circuit Mont Tremblant saga ... where rich millionaires decide to build extravagant homes around a race track that has been there for 50 years !
The current resolution is a 92db limit for all events but , pretty unsure how long that will last ...
Lawrence Stroll still owns an extravagant home 20 minutes away from the track but he sold out, anyhow he's to busy with Aston Martin to complain !
Sounds the same as the Circuit Mont Tremblant saga ... where rich millionaires decide to build extravagant homes around a race track that has been there for 50 years !
The current resolution is a 92db limit for all events but , pretty unsure how long that will last ... Lawrence Stroll still owns an extravagant home 20 minutes away from the track but he sold out, anyhow he's to busy with Aston Martin to complain !
Cheers
Phil
Does "sold out" mean he sold the track? Brings back memories of being on track with him as he's driving his GTO....
Actually the track and surrounding land belonged to his father Leo, Lawrence sold his interests as he was tired of all the ongoing lawsuits and has
nothing to do with it anymore.A few years ago we were allowed five unmuffled events per year , now all events are 92db and strictly enforced by the decibel police that
move around the track at from what i hear city hall and the local police force also monitor the sound levels.
Actually the track and surrounding land belonged to his father Leo, Lawrence sold his interests as he was tired of all the ongoing lawsuits and has
nothing to do with it anymore.A few years ago we were allowed five unmuffled events per year , now all events are 92db and strictly enforced by the decibel police that
move around the track at from what i hear city hall and the local police force also monitor the sound levels.
Cheers
Phil
Man, too bad, used to love going and driving that track. Stayed at the Auberge Sauvignon, Francine and Patrick took great care of me. 92db isn't much....
This sh*t makes me insane! Particularly in the case of Tremblant (and now Laguna if this goes forward), I don't understand how any judge can find in favour of folks who built their homes and cottages in close proximity to a pre-existing racetrack and then COMPLAIN ABOUT THE NOISE!! It boggles my mind that restrictions were put on Tremblant even though it was there first!!
No sh*t... but unfortunately a lot of them have also moved to AZ....
It's not just Austin or AZ, but ID, NV, TX, WA, etc.
I seem to remember other similar lawsuits about a decade or so ago with Laguna Seca. It does seem ridiculous given racetracks and airports have been there for decades and then home owners want to change the rules after the fact.
This was how ugly it got in order to pass sound test , a lot of racers had to pack it up and go home because they failed the static 92 db test in the paddocks !
Only a few examples , it was even uglier for the Formula Atlantic and Formula Renault open wheel cars ...
This was how ugly it got in order to pass sound test , a lot of racers had to pack it up and go home because they failed the static 92 db test in the paddocks !
Only a few examples , it was even uglier for the Formula Atlantic and Formula Renault open wheel cars ...
Man, too bad, used to love going and driving that track. Stayed at the Auberge Sauvignon, Francine and Patrick took great care of me. 92db isn't much....
Gary…right you are, it’s not a lot. The Lambo STO (stock) is 104.
Road Atlanta has quiet hour (actually 2 hours) on Sunday mornings. Chin has been re-arranging their Sunday schedules to try to accommodate it, but you will be black flagged if you fail the noise meter at T9.
We’re being regulated out of existence. Watkins Glen is looking better as a second home, lol (I lived in Ithaca for 2 years).
P.S. I would fail some of those cars above solely based on looks.
The plaintiffs alleged "the number of residences and residents adversely affected by the increased noise and traffic has substantially increased since 1974."
This statement actually sets up the best defense for the track which is known as "coming to the nuisance." You can't move next to a race track and then complain there is a race track.
What I glean from the article is that the residences are trying to say Laguna Seca is operating outside its historical use, which is a counter-defense to the coming to the nuisance defense. In short, they are claiming the nuisance has changed.
Compare this to Lime Rock, where the people already lived in the area, when the track was built. The did not come to the nuisance - the nuisance came to them. The ironic thing is LRP was built in 1956, which is 68 years ago. At a certain point everyone who lived there when LRP was built will be dead. I think these new owners should STFU but that's just me.
Good luck to Laguna Seca and hope they have good attorneys!
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