Frank 993 C4S

One race weekend usually has three races, so we are talking about 3 race weekends.

uscarrera

I for one misunderstood wording thought it was 3 events not races, thanks Frank, does taking the green flag count as a race or do you need to take the checkered?
Rich

RSRRacer

I have seen way too much attempted passing under braking. And the same drivers either don't understand or can't properly execute the timing of their throttle application so that they are exiting the corner faster. It's like they are fixated and glued to the bumper of a slower car instead of allowing a 2 car gap to time an earlier throttle.

Pretty basic stuff but often missing.

sbelles

Don't get me wrong. A fixed number of races makes a lot more sense to me then a fixed period.

ProCoach

Gussied up 13/13, just with different terms/events. What's missing is the intent of the rule change. Especially ineffective as a deterrent when no one loses championship points except for that incident event RACE. There needs to be a cumulative penalty, with teeth.

The problem was not the old 13/13, watered down as it was.

The problem was the inconsistent (or no) application of it. What's worse was the misapplication of it. Not an isolated occurrence...

A few years ago, a group of professional coaches were asked to review a competitor (competitor A's) video, along with the cars around them, who was hit (with significant and costly damage).

Initially, competitor B was found at fault, at the event. All of the professionals reviewing the video agreed unanimously and without hesitation that that was the correct call.

After the event, competitor B appealed the steward's decision. A higher level of steward not only reversed competitor B's finding of fault, but through a process indecipherable to any of us, found competitor A to be at fault, assigning him a 13 month probation.

Ludicrous.

Don't see how this change will streamline the "determining fault" process on the administrative side OR act as a serious deterrent on the participant side.

tgsmith4845

That sounds very familiar. 🙂

The 13/13 appeal process is shrouded in mystery, often coming down to just one steward making the ultimate decision, a decision which itself is not open to appeal.

will968

I think the answer might be to get the racers to self-police some of this stuff by rating your fellow in-class drivers and having that count towards your point total. If you drove like an a-hole all season (cheated up too?) then you’ll never get to be champ. If you get people to respect each other and the rules, then most of these problems could be solved without stewards. It gives racers a say, and encourages people to get along. You can also look at every blown flag and complaint and subtract that from the score.

Nizer

Why is this not obvious to everyone involved in officiating PCA races? It's not complicated.

Veloce Raptor

As I said: it's apparent that there is a bit of "old boys' club/some racers are protected" going on. They have to WANT to change that...

ProCoach

Yep, and as I know from being a large support shop in the past, there is not a small amount of influence wielded by those folks as well, sometimes to the detriment of the other drivers…

uscarrera

Would it be possible to establish an individual race review committee at each event, composed of PCA racers not doing the event but call that track home say a comittee of 3 so no ties and no agenda other than safe racing.
just a thought
Rich