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Old 04-22-2024, 09:38 AM
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I was there this weekend and can gladly report that they're not nearly as bad as they look. The lower/outer part feels smoother than it did before (less rumbly). The inside section can be a little rough, but when taken with good speed, you can hop the right side of the car right over it. The only time it felt pretty harsh was when taking it slower than normal, like when coming in off-line after a pass on the inside.
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Originally Posted by thedude14
I was there this weekend and can gladly report that they're not nearly as bad as they look. The lower/outer part feels smoother than it did before (less rumbly). The inside section can be a little rough, but when taken with good speed, you can hop the right side of the car right over it. The only time it felt pretty harsh was when taking it slower than normal, like when coming in off-line after a pass on the inside.
How did your times compare between this new arrangement and the previous curbs?
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Video of the new setup looks ok. Less potentially injurious than in the past.
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Old 04-22-2024, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by thedude14
I was there this weekend and can gladly report that they're not nearly as bad as they look. The lower/outer part feels smoother than it did before (less rumbly). The inside section can be a little rough, but when taken with good speed, you can hop the right side of the car right over it. The only time it felt pretty harsh was when taking it slower than normal, like when coming in off-line after a pass on the inside.
Any video to post?
Old 04-22-2024, 11:56 AM
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Not a Pcar, but this was posted in a BMW Spec 3 FB group ...

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While the pictures look crazy, this video makes it look not too bad. It looks less violent than the rumble it replaced which begs the question - what are they trying to accomplish?

Was the goal to keep cars more settled going in?
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Originally Posted by Jas0nn
Not a Pcar, but this was posted in a BMW Spec 3 FB group ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ina3oWJtQk4
Doesn't look that bad at all but will def change the entry point into 5a, at least for me it will.

Looks like, as mentioned earlier in this thread, a much earlier turn in to 5a and a much straighter line to 5b and an easier rotation into 5c and out of the complex.

Me thinks PB's are gonna be abundant....
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Looks fine to me. Although he's crabbing in...
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
Looks fine to me. Although he's crabbing in...
Isn't that the idea with the new setup in 5a?
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Was the consensus that you can fully drive over it? Those two turtles look like they stick up enough to do some undercarriage damage but its hard to tell.
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Originally Posted by Montaver
Was the consensus that you can fully drive over it?
Yes, like the rough stuff behind Turn 3 at Road Atlanta, as long as you get airborne, you won't do damage!
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Originally Posted by dgrobs
Isn't that the idea with the new setup in 5a?
No. When you crab in, your entry trajectory is always changing, as was his. He wasn't disciplined in his approach. You have a better vision of what you're trying to do so there's that.
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
No. When you crab in, your entry trajectory is always changing, as was his. He wasn't disciplined in his approach. You have a better vision of what you're trying to do so there's that.
I have to see and do it in person to understand it I guess.
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
Yes, like the rough stuff behind Turn 3 at Road Atlanta, as long as you get airborne, you won't do damage!
Interesting, feedback I'm hearing is people in DE or racing couldn't go over it and had to take a wider line than before. The GTS3 (mostly E46's with aero) guys were not able to get over it, although I don't know how much experimentation was done. Maybe people just need to get used to it and we will see everyone effectively ignoring it and straight lining the entry like before.
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Originally Posted by Jas0nn
Not a Pcar, but this was posted in a BMW Spec 3 FB group ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ina3oWJtQk4

He is taking a very shallow angle...I wonder why?


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