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Location: Cambridge, MA
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I am using my 99 986 primarily for DE but also for fun driving in the sun!
I would like to change to a pad which will work well for DE but that is not too noisy on the street. Unfortunately PF does not make a pad for the 99 Boxster so I was considering the Pagid Orange. Sound like the right thing to do? Is there a difference between Orange and Orange RS44?
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PFC makes the 01 compound for the '99 Boxster. That said, I switched to Pagid Orange in my SPBOX because the PFC builds up more heat relative to the Pagid and in the Boxster with stock brakes it nice to have a little more help with heat. You might consider buying the 997 GT3 brake ducts also, only about $20 and work much better than the Boxster ducts.
Orange pads will be noisy on the street and don't work so well when cold. I would not run them on the street.
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I've been using Oranges on my 99 for eight years. Seven of those with a 3.4L. I stick all of my receipts in a folder and don't add them up but my guess is that I've gone through about 16 sets of front pads, + 5 rotors and 10 sets of rears + 3 rotors.
The car doesn't see very much street use anymore (mostly from the track to a gas station), but I never switched out pads when it did. They can be very noisy if you brake like most people would in a street car (i.e. starting with very little brake and progressively stepping on it until stop), but if you do it the other way around they don't make much noise at all. For racing I'm looking at changing to something more aggressive but for DE/ street I thought they were great. You do have to make sure that you bed them in well though. Especially when you put on new rotors. I failed to do it once at VIR and it wasn't fun. The pad material wasn't deposited evenly on the rotors and trail braking into Oak Tree the wheel would shake so bad I though I had a real problem.
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I agree,they are very noisy on the street,unless you change your braking habits.They are great onthe track,I'll deal with the noise.
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Thanks for the replies guys.
BTW, any insight as to who has the best Pagid prices right now?
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Unless they've changed the composition, I never liked the Pagid Oranges. They over heat and transfer material to the rotor at an alarming rate. This results in the feeling that you have a warped rotor. I far prefer Pagid Yellows.
(I run Yellows in front, Blacks in the back on my 964.)
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There are better pads out there for the race track. I like the Pagid RS19 (Yellow), but do not know if they are available for the Boxster. I have RS19's on my RSA. They are very noisy.
I recommend that you try out the PFC 01. It is a very good pad and they make them for the Boxster. I get my pads from Chris Streit of Moto Delta Motorsports. http://www.moto-delta.com/store/inde...ter+brake+pads
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I have run orange for years, and like them. They do seem to deposit a lot onto the rotors and can easily create sticky rotor spots. I just drove with he PFC 01 and was impressed. They seem easier to modulate and release easier. I feel like the orange bite harder, but it's darn close.
I also use the orange for some street use, and agree that they are noisy. But that doesn't bother me (actually kinda enjoy it) |
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I wasn't a big fan of the RS19's on my Boxster S. However, I was comparing them against the RS14's, which have significantly more bite.
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As for pads, I've run RS19, RS14, PFC-06, PFC-01 and PFC-97 on my 996. In terms of performance, there isn't much performance difference between the endurance pads (97 and RS-19/29) IMO, the Pagid yellow (RS-19/29) are great for your application, but you can't use them much past 1/2 (maybe down to 1/3) before they start transferring lots of heat, at which point they will crack and tend to chunk. -td |
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Yellows are not available for the 2.5 rotors unfortunately. Use the Oranges....
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For easy DE use and street, consider Pagid Blues. Not for harder track use -
Love em on my BMW for the street (MUCH less dust and very little noise) Real world impressions you may find useful: http://www.planetporsche.net/cayman-...-new-post.html
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Oranges gave me horrible deposits on my 964. I will never use them again.
I love pagid blacks on the SPBOX. YMMV.
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