Why is there no club race at Mt. Tremblant? - Page 3

Brian P · 06-17-2009, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gums

I think it would be a good idea to alternate club races between Mosport and Mt. Tremblant.
To set the record straight, in recent years, UCR hasn't lost much money hosting on the CanAm Challenge. Three out of four years we made a profit and had a great time! Also, a small profit was made in 2008 by the new Race Chair. Before 2004, the Mosport race had some financial concerns.

I think alternating between the two would be good for both as people are more likely to attend when they know it will be a while before the race is at that track again.

I'm impressed that they made a profit in 2008 since turnout was so low (due to the VIR race being scheduled a week after Mosport)

gums · 06-17-2009, 10:37 AM

Yeah, well don't forget that they run that Club Race concurrent with an Advanced DE group.

analogmike · 06-17-2009, 10:59 AM

I also ran the club race in 99 and it was awesome, I would love to race there again. It's a great place to race because you can bring your family and they can stay in the resort town.

Bob Rouleau · 06-17-2009, 02:01 PM

Guys,

I will take the idea of a Club Race to the Rennsport Board. There is also a Thread in the Rennsport region forum in the Canada section.

A few things:

1) Night racing is not possible - noise restrictions force the track to shut down at 5 PM. No lights either.

2) The owner is not a problem, for Rennsport at least. There were some issues 7 - 8 years ago, but not since.

3) The track was renovated after the parade race and is far better than it was, built to current FIA specs, i.e. a lot safer than Mosport for example.

4) It is an ideal venue since it is located in the middle of a 4 seasons resort - as someone pointed out, superb for families and the hotels are located only 5 minutes from the track. That's is another huge plus compared to other locations in the North East.

The biggest problem is scheduling. The track is busy, although the loss of the Champ Car series should leave a hole. On the other hand it makes sense to schedule it in a complimentary way to the Glen and Mosport. That way drivers can make a circuit - take a holiday and participate in several races within a 5-6 hour drive.

I can't say it will happen but I think the idea has merit.

Best,

gums · 06-17-2009, 02:05 PM

Thanks for stepping up, Bob!
You have our total support and encouragement.
Keep us posted of developments.

FredC · 06-17-2009, 02:46 PM

Good luck!

Brian P · 06-17-2009, 03:08 PM

For what it's worth... My wife was thinking of coming up to the Mosport race with me this year and bringing the kids along. When I told her that there was a possibility of a race at Mt. Tremblant next year, she immediately said that she'll skip Mosport and hold out for next year.

Charles A. Toupin · 11-03-2009, 09:48 PM

Hey guys!

Let's show your support to a Mt-Tremblant PCA Club Race for the 2010 season. RSR region will have to make a decision soon. If you show support, it might become a reality.

Tx.

C.

analogmike · 11-03-2009, 10:09 PM

Got my support!

Bob Rouleau · 11-03-2009, 10:32 PM

Guys here is the latest:

The RSR Board is favorably disposed to a Club Race providing we are confident that we will not lose a lot of Club money.

OTOH, UCR Mosport lost $6,000 on the 2009 event in spite of having $15,000 in sponsorship!

We need a date which not only does not conflict with the Glen and perhaps UCR Mosport but when Le Circuit is not subject to noise restrictions. A Club Race with mufflers and 30 cars maximum on track is a non-starter.

As of now, the track manager does not have a date for us within the "noise days" the track is allowed. Perhaps Champ Car or whatever it is called now is coming back this summer?

Right now it does not look too good. I was surprised that UCR lost money in spite of having a DE (touring) group and nice sponsorship. It is also evident that having to pay for National people to come and run the event is very costly - airfare, hotels, rental cars, meals and whatever else.

I'll will update this thread if anything changes in our favor. The major obstacle is securing a date - noise allowed.

Regards,

Charles A. Toupin · 11-03-2009, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau

Guys here is the latest:

The RSR Board is favorably disposed to a Club Race providing we are confident that we will not lose a lot of Club money.

As of now, the track manager does not have a date for us within the "noise days" the track is allowed. Perhaps Champ Car or whatever it is called now is coming back this summer?

Regards,

Maybe the Rennchums could sponsor the event

(they will kill me

)

Bob, I'm pretty sure you can work out your magic with the track manager!

I keep my fingers crossed!

C.

Van · 11-03-2009, 11:07 PM

I thought the Mosport event was under-attended - compared to years previous. The paddock had fewer cars and so did the run groups.

A $6k loss isn't that bad - at $500 per entry, that's only 12 drivers.

If Tremblant was on a weekend that I could make it, I'd definitely go.

sleder · 11-03-2009, 11:47 PM

I 'm in ! count on my $

Brian P · 11-04-2009, 01:52 AM

I'm definitely in. I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'm willing to attend a mid-week event. The track is that incredible. So, you name the date, and I'll make my schedule fit it.

Jimbo951 · 11-04-2009, 03:04 AM

I did a 2-day, mid-week DE at LCMT a few years ago and thought the track and area was awesome. If there was a CR at Tremblant, it would be on my schedule. And I'm sure my Dad would drive in a DE.

06-17-2009, 10:37 AM	#32
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06-17-2009, 02:01 PM	#34
Bob Rouleau Administrator Still plays with cars. Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 9,899	Guys, I will take the idea of a Club Race to the Rennsport Board. There is also a Thread in the Rennsport region forum in the Canada section. A few things: 1) Night racing is not possible - noise restrictions force the track to shut down at 5 PM. No lights either. 2) The owner is not a problem, for Rennsport at least. There were some issues 7 - 8 years ago, but not since. 3) The track was renovated after the parade race and is far better than it was, built to current FIA specs, i.e. a lot safer than Mosport for example. 4) It is an ideal venue since it is located in the middle of a 4 seasons resort - as someone pointed out, superb for families and the hotels are located only 5 minutes from the track. That's is another huge plus compared to other locations in the North East. The biggest problem is scheduling. The track is busy, although the loss of the Champ Car series should leave a hole. On the other hand it makes sense to schedule it in a complimentary way to the Glen and Mosport. That way drivers can make a circuit - take a holiday and participate in several races within a 5-6 hour drive. I can't say it will happen but I think the idea has merit. Best, __________________ ..Bob Frozen North Rep & ceramic rotor roaster Hey, wait for me! racing.

06-17-2009, 02:05 PM	#35
gums Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,710	Thanks for stepping up, Bob! You have our total support and encouragement. Keep us posted of developments. __________________ F. Celenza #44 NASA NE 944SuperCup Top Points Scorer 2009 www.frankcelenza.com/racing.php

06-17-2009, 02:46 PM	#36
FredC Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Right of the middle Posts: 2,039	Good luck! __________________ Fred

06-17-2009, 03:08 PM	#37
Brian P Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,780	For what it's worth... My wife was thinking of coming up to the Mosport race with me this year and bringing the kids along. When I told her that there was a possibility of a race at Mt. Tremblant next year, she immediately said that she'll skip Mosport and hold out for next year. __________________ '99 986 - Returned to leasing company after 61 DE days '01 986S - Mods: GT3 Center Console Delete, GT3 Sway Bars, GT3 seats, GT3 wheels, GT3 nose, GT3 tow hooks, GT3 steering wheel, GT3 control arms, GT3 toe links '04 Racers Group GT3 RSR Le Mans Sponser Graphics added by Two Jokers Graphics in 2009 and have since podiumed 14 out of 15 races (one DNF)

11-03-2009, 09:48 PM	#38
Charles A. Toupin Numero Uno Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: in my gorilla suit Posts: 512	Hey guys! Let's show your support to a Mt-Tremblant PCA Club Race for the 2010 season. RSR region will have to make a decision soon. If you show support, it might become a reality. Tx. C. __________________ You've never had fun until you've had a gorilla suit on. Really, I'm not kidding. And it makes me drive like an animal. 07' Dodge Ram HEMI, DD and tow truck 09' Volks Passat 3,6L 4Motion, wife's DD 86' 951 GT3-S track car Past flames: 04' Miata and 06' Mustang GT, 88' Firebird Formula WS-6 Dozen's of not so noteworthy other cars.

11-03-2009, 10:09 PM	#39
analogmike Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Danbury, CT, USA Posts: 1,939	Got my support! __________________ Regards, mike - Analog Mike @ aol 1973 911RS Clone - PCA F class + vintage 2008 997 GT3 cup x 2 - GTC4 and GTA2 2004 Touareg tow rig 2006 Mini CooperS 2001 Viper GTS It's as stupid and wonderful as a pet elephant - Jeremy Clarkson racing pages - http://www.analogman.com/911 ~^v^~ aNaLoG.MaN ~^v^~ guitar effects www.analogman.com

11-03-2009, 10:32 PM	#40
Bob Rouleau Administrator Still plays with cars. Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 9,899	Guys here is the latest: The RSR Board is favorably disposed to a Club Race providing we are confident that we will not lose a lot of Club money. OTOH, UCR Mosport lost $6,000 on the 2009 event in spite of having $15,000 in sponsorship! We need a date which not only does not conflict with the Glen and perhaps UCR Mosport but when Le Circuit is not subject to noise restrictions. A Club Race with mufflers and 30 cars maximum on track is a non-starter. As of now, the track manager does not have a date for us within the "noise days" the track is allowed. Perhaps Champ Car or whatever it is called now is coming back this summer? Right now it does not look too good. I was surprised that UCR lost money in spite of having a DE (touring) group and nice sponsorship. It is also evident that having to pay for National people to come and run the event is very costly - airfare, hotels, rental cars, meals and whatever else. I'll will update this thread if anything changes in our favor. The major obstacle is securing a date - noise allowed. Regards, __________________ ..Bob Frozen North Rep & ceramic rotor roaster Hey, wait for me! racing.

11-03-2009, 11:07 PM	#42
Van Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Woodstock, NY Posts: 6,074	I thought the Mosport event was under-attended - compared to years previous. The paddock had fewer cars and so did the run groups. A $6k loss isn't that bad - at $500 per entry, that's only 12 drivers. If Tremblant was on a weekend that I could make it, I'd definitely go.

11-03-2009, 11:47 PM	#43
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11-04-2009, 01:52 AM	#44
Brian P Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,780	I'm definitely in. I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'm willing to attend a mid-week event. The track is that incredible. So, you name the date, and I'll make my schedule fit it. __________________ '99 986 - Returned to leasing company after 61 DE days '01 986S - Mods: GT3 Center Console Delete, GT3 Sway Bars, GT3 seats, GT3 wheels, GT3 nose, GT3 tow hooks, GT3 steering wheel, GT3 control arms, GT3 toe links '04 Racers Group GT3 RSR Le Mans Sponser Graphics added by Two Jokers Graphics in 2009 and have since podiumed 14 out of 15 races (one DNF)

11-04-2009, 03:04 AM	#45
Jimbo951 User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 220	I did a 2-day, mid-week DE at LCMT a few years ago and thought the track and area was awesome. If there was a CR at Tremblant, it would be on my schedule. And I'm sure my Dad would drive in a DE.