Schumacher racing in Las Vegas - Page 2

Flying Finn · 11-19-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete

Interesting to see no neck collar, brace or anything, but whose going to say anything to him?

Well doh, his doctor...

ltc · 11-19-2009, 06:09 PM

SKUSA does not require neck braces.

FIA/CIK came out last year and made them optional for Senior classes.
All Junior classes MUST wear a foam collar or neck brace (Leatt, Valhalla, EVS, etc).

ltc · 11-19-2009, 06:09 PM

And he's wearing a Schuberth helmet...IIRC, $50K...wonder if anyone notices out there when he goes thru tech inspection.

ajcjr · 11-19-2009, 06:10 PM

http://picasaweb.google.com/snats13/DropBox#

the link above has pictures from the racing in vegas

Pete · 11-19-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ltc

SKUSA does not require neck braces.

FIA/CIK came out last year and made them optional for Senior classes.
All Junior classes MUST wear a foam collar or neck brace (Leatt, Valhalla, EVS, etc).

I'm so used to seeing EVERYONE with neck protection, it struck me as wierd. LAKC runs under International Karting Federation rules and they (I believe) have it mandatory for everyone as I've never heard otherwise.

Even with his neck injury, he still must have the neck strength of a bull, but with a 40 car field and being "Schumacher" I've got to believe there are going to be some yahoos that are overly excited to have the chance to beat "Schumacher" touch tires and boom, a flip...

Cory M · 11-19-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete

Interesting to see no neck collar, brace or anything, but whose going to say anything to him? Awesome. Thanks for the link Lewis!!!

Maybe he's trying to strengthen his neck for a 2010 F1 comeback

bobt993 · 11-19-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ltc

And he's wearing a Schuberth helmet...IIRC, $50K...wonder if anyone notices out there when he goes thru tech inspection.

Dumb question: How does the weight work out? Do they ballast or is MS just giving up say 80 lbs???

Pete · 11-19-2009, 07:34 PM

^^^ There is min. weight for all classes. I would guess that Schumacher has lead on his kart to make the min. weight just like everyone else.

Cory M · 11-19-2009, 07:37 PM

The minimum weight for the class is probably around 385, and the kart should weight around 200...

95m3racer · 11-19-2009, 09:27 PM

Schuberth Helmet is not $50k. The new Arai Gp6 is available from some USA importers for $6k, its pretty close. We had a customer who ordered an F1 spec Schuberth from a friend at Ferrari F1 and it was well under $10k.

The event should be pretty nice, I've got some carbon rib protectors there with a dealer of mine from Canada.

Pete · 11-19-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 95m3racer

Schuberth Helmet is not $50k. The new Arai Gp6 is available from some USA importers for $6k, its pretty close. We had a customer who ordered an F1 spec Schuberth from a friend at Ferrari F1 and it was well under $10k.

The event should be pretty nice, I've got some carbon rib protectors there with a dealer of mine from Canada.

I think what ltc was referring to is the price to make that helmet. What each F1 Driver wears as a helmet is not an off the shelf product. Each is a one off made in their car in the wind tunnel to maximise the air flow into the airbox for the engine. Because each driver has a different torso length, each is specifically made. For example a taller driver like Kubica will have a different shape than a shorter driver like Massa.

This past year I remember Webber trying 2 different helmet manufacturers and Adrian Newey wanted one of the other because of it aero tendancies. I recall reading an article on Nick Heidfeld's helmet which cost close to $80,000 to produce. Nothing is left to chance in F1.

Finally, the Schuberth helmet that Schumacher wears was specifically made after Massa's head injury where they learned what had happened in his accident and developed a new helmet design and construction to minimize that sort of impact.

ltc · 11-19-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete

This past year I remember Webber trying 2 different helmet manufacturers and Adrian Newey wanted one of the other because of it aero tendancies..

IIRC, Newey preferred the Arai for aero reasons, Webber was wearing a Bell at the time.

IIRC, the $50K number was some years back and it was mentioned by Matchett during a race broadcast. I agree with Pete, I'm fairly certain Schumacher's helmet is a complete custom, same as Massa's.

There was a picture floating around somewhere of a battle tank sitting on top of a Schuberth helmet...not really sure how practical that is, but it was a cool picture.

Flying Finn · 11-19-2009, 10:42 PM

Pete & Lewis are correct. all of F1 guys who use Schuberth helmet have had their lid custom made. After it's done though, the rest of the helmets are not that ($50k) expensive. The helmet that was made for Schumi for his "return" to F1 this season was about $20K.

Bill L Seifert · 11-21-2009, 01:03 AM

703 miles, boy is that tempting, my wife will kill me.

Bill Seifert

ltc · 11-21-2009, 06:26 AM

It was reported over in the ekartingnews thread that Robin Miller and SpeedTV will be out at the Supernats, apparently to chat with Michael Schumacher.

That's a big deal for karting which almost never gets national media exposure (the IRL Snap On Stars of Karting series...RIP....used to be on SpeedTV under the Lucas Oil 'On The Edge' segments occasionally)

11-19-2009, 06:09 PM	#17
ltc Super Moderator (training wheels attached) Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: RL Moderator Bunker Posts: 21,211	SKUSA does not require neck braces. FIA/CIK came out last year and made them optional for Senior classes. All Junior classes MUST wear a foam collar or neck brace (Leatt, Valhalla, EVS, etc). __________________ ...Lewis

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11-21-2009, 06:26 AM	#30
ltc Super Moderator (training wheels attached) Lifetime Rennlist Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: RL Moderator Bunker Posts: 21,211	It was reported over in the ekartingnews thread that Robin Miller and SpeedTV will be out at the Supernats, apparently to chat with Michael Schumacher. That's a big deal for karting which almost never gets national media exposure (the IRL Snap On Stars of Karting series...RIP....used to be on SpeedTV under the Lucas Oil 'On The Edge' segments occasionally) __________________ ...Lewis

11-19-2009, 06:10 PM	#19
ajcjr Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,092	http://picasaweb.google.com/snats13/DropBox# the link above has pictures from the racing in vegas

11-19-2009, 07:34 PM	#23
Pete Rennlist F1 Professor Emeritus PhD, No BS Rennlist Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,846	^^^ There is min. weight for all classes. I would guess that Schumacher has lead on his kart to make the min. weight just like everyone else.

11-19-2009, 07:37 PM	#24
Cory M Addict Rennlist Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,895	The minimum weight for the class is probably around 385, and the kart should weight around 200...

11-19-2009, 09:27 PM	#25
95m3racer User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 506	Schuberth Helmet is not $50k. The new Arai Gp6 is available from some USA importers for $6k, its pretty close. We had a customer who ordered an F1 spec Schuberth from a friend at Ferrari F1 and it was well under $10k. The event should be pretty nice, I've got some carbon rib protectors there with a dealer of mine from Canada.

11-21-2009, 01:03 AM	#29
Bill L Seifert User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Hailey, Idaho Posts: 1,488	703 miles, boy is that tempting, my wife will kill me. Bill Seifert