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Old 03-08-2010, 11:21 PM
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I purchased a 2010 gt3 and love it. However the track bug has bitten me! I am looking for a dedicated track car, purpose built for racing. I am considering a Porsche Cup car but came upon Sports racers, ADR3 or Radical sr3 or 5. They look like a hell of a lot of fun! Does any one have experience with these cars.They price out cheaper than a new cup car.

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radical is great fun.
but you either need to be able to do a lot or work on it yourself or you need a shop all the time. things rattle lose, you need a good nut and bolt almost every weekend you take it out.
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Originally Posted by mooty
you need a good nut and bolt almost every weekend you take it out.
This is the case for any dedicated track car IMO. I'd rather see it done every day the car sees the track.

To the OP: The cars you mention are great fun. I have no idea how you could have much/any fun in them in a limited passing situation such as a DE though. Their cornering limits are so much higher than even a good GT race car. Doesn't sound like a car you would learn much in, driving around at 50% of the limit behind much slower cars.

For that matter, a Cup car doesn't sound much fun in a DE either unless you are going after a DE Championship and all of the money and fame that comes with it.
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you will get bored in a DE with a Cup, ( 2K for tires every 2 weekends alone ) doesnt matter if you are driving 50% or not.... you will drive 50% throttle in a Radical, ( and plan on 8 hour Maintenance routine for every weekend of driving with 35 engine hour rebuild ) basically 200 per hour cost

plenty of fun cars out there that are built for the track already...

but a decision you need to make for yourself just know what you are getting into...

what ever you buy you have to sell..... someday
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Matt would know about the selling...he's owned and sold almost every car out there !

If you want something fast, safe and pretty much set up out of the box why not consider one of the cayman spec's from Napleton Porsche? For about 80K you'll get a new car that is nocely set up and so far has been very durable...
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yep... !!!!! dont buy what you cant sell!
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Nothing personal, GG, but if you're new to track driving, then the cars you list are all above your talent level. If you have more track experience, then that's another story.

When you're ready for a dedicated track car, it's first important to ask where/when are you going to drive it. Spec racers are nice, but can have limited venues. For just DE's, as someone mentioned, those are all overkill.

Have you thought about an Arial Atom? Or a Lotus Exige S?
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you might want to look at some of the PCA club race letter classed cars for sale. Getting an already built car can save money and time. Can, not will, you would need to get one that still has life in it. They are out there.
Learning and having fun in a pefromance improved but not slammed full on top end aero race car will let you focus on the driving and other aspects of on and off track life. what to take what to do how to spend time between runs all the little stuff that when done right makes track weekends that much better. Spend a year or so driving and learning. Once you have a good handle on that you will know yourself where you want to go.
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Ariel Atom ?
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If you want a car that can (depending on driver) rule any DE, with reasonable maintenance costs, the Ariel Atom is perfect. But if you want to race, there's no class for this car in SCCA or NASA. As stated above, if you're capable of driving this type of car to its potential, you'll spend all day at a DE passing slower cars. That might sound fun but it gets old, and increases the danger factor.

If you just want to learn and have fun without trying to win DE's or get attention, a Spec Boxster or Spec Miata would be perfect. These can also be raced just about anywhere.
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Spec Boxster is a great platform to improve your skills and build up cofidence. They're also quite reasonable at around $35k for a fresh one....
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For that price range pickup an MX5 cup car...or go the cheap route and do a nicely prepped 99'ish spec Miata.
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Originally Posted by Bryan Watts
This is the case for any dedicated track car IMO. I'd rather see it done every day the car sees the track.

To the OP: The cars you mention are great fun. I have no idea how you could have much/any fun in them in a limited passing situation such as a DE though. Their cornering limits are so much higher than even a good GT race car. Doesn't sound like a car you would learn much in, driving around at 50% of the limit behind much slower cars.

For that matter, a Cup car doesn't sound much fun in a DE either unless you are going after a DE Championship and all of the money and fame that comes with it.
right on on every count.
i was just mumbling that radical and such are much more maintenance intensive than a street/DE car
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Originally Posted by smlporsche
Matt would know about the selling...he's owned and sold almost every car out there !

If you want something fast, safe and pretty much set up out of the box why not consider one of the cayman spec's from Napleton Porsche? For about 80K you'll get a new car that is nocely set up and so far has been very durable...
it is NOT 80k



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