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Old 05-12-2010, 01:41 AM
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So much for getting rid of the Mortgage payment !
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Hell of a truck though, you could pull just about any thing with that sucker.
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So much for getting rid of the Mortgage payment !
EXACTLY....... The idea is a "daily driver" that can pull a trailer for LESS payment than the M3..... However I am working on keeping the M3 as the "wifes" car...since her Acura is up later this year!!!
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
They are making a Denali HD next year....with the 397hp-765 torque turbo diesel!!

http://www.gmc.com/2011sierra/denali/index.jsp

That would be the best of both worlds....all the luxury and comfort in a package that can tow 15,000lbs
i have gmc sierra 2009 SLT. it's same as denali but slightly cheaper
the SLE models of sierra or lower models have a "truck dash"
SLT has the denali dash. if you ignore my short bed, the cabin is a SUV cabin. much more plush than my E90 POS BMW. and i also prefer the SLT over my 2009 cayenne GTS.

a high end truck today aint a truck.
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
EXACTLY....... The idea is a "daily driver" that can pull a trailer for LESS payment than the M3..... However I am working on keeping the M3 as the "wifes" car...since her Acura is up later this year!!!
If you stick with an open trailer, 1/2 ton will be fine. In our group Ford F-150 is popular with the crew cab. One tows an open trailer, one is enclosed and the other is actually a toy-hauler with his 968.
The open trailer tows great at legal + speeds, the enclosed trailer also does well but the toy hauler has to work hard over hills and headwinds but does the job done from San Diego to Spring Mtn in Pahrump.

If you plan on doing double duty, I would stick to 1/2 ton as it will be a much better daily driver than a 3/4 or larger.
I was previously towing an open trailer with a 1996 Ford Explorer with V8 and that worked well.

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Originally Posted by Sean F
One of the great things about towing with a big @ss diesel is engine braking. Makes a big difference.

I've had enough close calls now that I won't ever tow without a big diesel with a long wheel base. Just like the point where you go from a dual purpose car to a full track car, it's a huge step up when you go to the full on tow vehicle. Doesn't work for everyone, but if you can swing it - do it (to the OP, not John).
+1 on the engine braking... combine that with an exhaust brake and you're in tow heaven.

I pull my loaded enclosed with a RAM 3500 Cummins with the 6 speed auto and exhaust brake and I never even touch the brake coming down the mountain with cruise control on in tow mode. It's amazing.

As a daily driver, a one ton truck is a bit stout and bouncy, and with what you're looking at pulling, you don't 'need' that much truck... but...

Didn't someone mention a mortgage???
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Originally Posted by RJFabCab
+1 on the engine braking... combine that with an exhaust brake and you're in tow heaven.
That's interesting, cuz I've been towing with an F350 (turbo diesel) and the thing freewheels! I though that was a cool feature?
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With my 2500 Dodge V10 I have gone donw 6% freeway grades in 3rd gear no brakes. Even with a gas motor and only 4 gears the engine braking is very good. That is towing 24 ft enclosed trailer.
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
They are making a Denali HD next year....with the 397hp-765 torque turbo diesel!!

http://www.gmc.com/2011sierra/denali/index.jsp

That would be the best of both worlds....all the luxury and comfort in a package that can tow 15,000lbs
I see they're catching up to what my '03 King Ranch is, amenity-wise. In any case, I would vote with my wallet and never, ever, ever purchase something from the carcasses of General Motors or Chrysler.
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For anyone contemplating a Ram 2500 vs 2011 F250 diesel, Motor Trend just put out a comparison. Essentially they liked both of them but gave the advantage to the Ford.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
They are making a Denali HD next year....with the 397hp-765 torque turbo diesel!!

http://www.gmc.com/2011sierra/denali/index.jsp

That would be the best of both worlds....all the luxury and comfort in a package that can tow 15,000lbs
I'll wait till it's out for a few months but that's the vehicle I have wanted all along. Wonder if Ford will bring back the Excursion to compete?
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
I'll wait till it's out for a few months but that's the vehicle I have wanted all along. Wonder if Ford will bring back the Excursion to compete?
Did I miss something here? When you click on the GM link, the photo shown is most definitely a truck. So is it an SUV, or a fancy interior pickup????
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I think your right Ken, when he said Denali I assumed a Diesel Yukon Dinali, looks like a fancy truck... already got one of those. GM had announced a couple years back that they were going to produce a diesel Suburban, I was hoping they finally came through. Looks like not.
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Originally Posted by race911
Did I miss something here? When you click on the GM link, the photo shown is most definitely a truck. So is it an SUV, or a fancy interior pickup????
It can be either Ken. "Denali" is basically the high-end, fully loaded model of either the Yukon SUV or the Sierra truck.

http://www.gmc.com/denali/index.jsp?...i_|_gmc_denali
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Originally Posted by gums
That's interesting, cuz I've been towing with an F350 (turbo diesel) and the thing freewheels! I though that was a cool feature?
You don't get good engine braking in an F350? I'm talking with cruise control on... the RAM does a pretty good job down grades maintaining constant speed even without the exhaust brake on. Must be tranny/tow mode related.


No worries, Frank, freewheeling always was and always will be cool.

I vote DIESEL with a big, phat gas tank for the Iceman...


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