steering technique
08-19-2010, 12:20 PM
#31
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08-19-2010, 02:10 PM
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As for the idea of just pointing the wheel and praying, that's too simplistic. Too achieve maximum corner entry speed to the apex, and that's at the heart of this post , the formula of just point, shoot, and pray is not good enough. Is that what Chris Cervelli teaches his students. I dont' think so.
08-19-2010, 03:02 PM
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Of course point and pray is not how to drive, nor is it how I instruct my students. I just think as I've already stated, that the topic at hand overcomplicates the issue of steering input. I would instead worry more about grip/touch, and about quiet vs busy hands.
Praying faster is a good idea...
Praying faster is a good idea...
08-19-2010, 03:19 PM
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+1
Plus mental preparation, breathing and to correct slide you're supposed to counter steer, then hold the wheel in the middle of slide or whatever it was that you're supposed to do. For the life of me, I never couldn't figure out what people talk about when they tell you the book told them to hold the steering wheel in the middle of a slide.
Don't think so damn much, but drive.
Plus mental preparation, breathing and to correct slide you're supposed to counter steer, then hold the wheel in the middle of slide or whatever it was that you're supposed to do. For the life of me, I never couldn't figure out what people talk about when they tell you the book told them to hold the steering wheel in the middle of a slide.
Don't think so damn much, but drive.
08-19-2010, 05:52 PM
#35
If I am turning left, I place my left hand at 12:00 and probably pull with it until I tern the wheel enough that my right hand grips at six, at which point I am probably pushing with it more.
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08-20-2010, 12:12 PM
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08-20-2010, 05:03 PM
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More people shuffle steer than you'd think. Seen plenty of film of pros doing it, depending on the car and the corner. Hell, some people even let go of the wheel. Some steering ratios just don't allow for a single position grip on all corners.
08-20-2010, 05:11 PM
#39
I was taught to pull the wheel down...right hand pulls the wheel down to turn right. I was told to never push the wheel over the top. Hard to argue with Hurley Haywood, Chris Hall, Cas Whitehad and Andrew Davis on this. This way seems smoother and easier than trying to push the wheel over.
Objects are inherently more stable in tension than compression. You have more control pulling on the wheel than pushing on it.
08-20-2010, 05:15 PM
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Instead of guessing at what works and what doesnt. we are not talking autocross, or drifting or snow driving. Road racing. this is a good example of how its done. anything else folks just make excuses and ustify their bad habits. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO41s...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO41s...layer_embedded
08-20-2010, 09:51 PM
#42
The sooner you can straighten the wheel the sooner you can put the power down. The secret is to control corner entry so you can corner exit. Focus on the smoothness and the hands will follow the eyes. Look into the distance and anticipate.
08-20-2010, 10:18 PM
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08-20-2010, 10:42 PM
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08-21-2010, 09:03 AM
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Instead of guessing at what works and what doesnt. we are not talking autocross, or drifting or snow driving. Road racing. this is a good example of how its done. anything else folks just make excuses and ustify their bad habits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO41s...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO41s...layer_embedded