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Old 06-25-2012, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fleadh
I've watched the Sprint Cup cars test at Sonoma on the normal/full track and they're FAST. IIRC, they were running about the same lap times as I do in my 2011 GT3 Cup. On a more wide open track they should be faster... :O

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And that's the thing, they are as fast but yet doing it on much less tire footprint. They would be a blast on an open track !
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Originally Posted by onefastviking
And that's the thing, they are as fast but yet doing it on much less tire footprint. They would be a blast on an open track !
hence my desire to see Sprint Cup follow NNS to Road America
Old 06-25-2012, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by onefastviking
And that's the thing, they are as fast but yet doing it on much less tire footprint. They would be a blast on an open track !
Footprint is small + brake rotors are tiny, since the wheels are only 15" in diameter and the cars weight ~3800 lbs.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Footprint is small + brake rotors are tiny, since the wheels are only 15" in diameter and the cars weight ~3800 lbs.
All of which is why making comparisons of lap times to race cars in other series is meaningless.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Footprint is small + brake rotors are tiny, since the wheels are only 15" in diameter and the cars weight ~3800 lbs.
Actually, on the road race cars the brakes are amazing. I kept forcing myself to stay in the throttle longer than I thought was possible into the corners only to still over slow the car each time. Lots of pistons on thick wide rotors for the roadrace. On the Speedway cars they are smaller and lighter.
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Originally Posted by onefastviking
...I'd venture to say that more wind tunnel time and $$$$$ is spent in NASCAR R&D than in F1.
Not to put the NASCAR, or it's technology down but they're far off...

Red Bull spends about $250 mil a year which doesn't include engines (they get the for free from Renault) and googlin NASCAR budget, from Speed's NASCAR site, they say top teams spend about $20 mil a year.

"To make a race team competitive requires huge budgets, with the top Sprint Cup teams commanding more than $20 million per car annually and winning NNS cars as much as $6 million per year."
http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cu...-nascar-teams/
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Originally Posted by onefastviking
Actually, on the road race cars the brakes are amazing. I kept forcing myself to stay in the throttle longer than I thought was possible into the corners only to still over slow the car each time. Lots of pistons on thick wide rotors for the roadrace. On the Speedway cars they are smaller and lighter.
Good to know. Nevertheless, the wheel diameters are still only 15", so the rotors are much smaller in swept area than a GT3 Cup...
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Originally Posted by Flying Finn
Red Bull spends about $250 mil a year which doesn't include engines (they get the for free from Renault) and googlin NASCAR budget, from Speed's NASCAR site, they say top teams spend about $20 mil a year.

PCA Chicago had an F-1 engineering consultant (did a lot of work for the red cars) speak 5 or 6 years ago.

He had a great line:

"Ferrari was given an unlimited budget for their F-1 program. They exceeded it."
Old 06-25-2012, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mdrums
I enjoyed this race...funny Clint Boyer basically a roundly round guy wins it! Great driving....
Boyer is great driver. He scored the highest of all the NASCAR drivers at Bondurant for road course driving. This was before Ambrose showed up though...would be interesting to see an Ambrose/Boyer Bondurant competition...hmmm...wait a minute - I could do a reality show...

Driver vs. Driver. Different cars and different drivers from different series...kinda like a ROC except...<off to work out the concept>...
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2008 Gnassi Nextel Cup Car. $64k, 862HP.

http://www.genefeltonrestorations.co...stenal_40.html
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Originally Posted by mglobe
2008 Gnassi Nextel Cup Car. $64k, 862HP.

http://www.genefeltonrestorations.co...stenal_40.html
does it automatically drive into jet dryers?

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Originally Posted by GuyIncognito
does it automatically drive into jet dryers?

They charge extra for that.
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Originally Posted by GuyIncognito
does it automatically drive into jet dryers?

Juan more jet dryer joke !
Love it !
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Kinda funny video, check out the highlight times posted in the notes to see the best of Busch.
What an a@#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen
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Originally Posted by Flying Finn
Not to put the NASCAR, or it's technology down but they're far off...

Red Bull spends about $250 mil a year which doesn't include engines (they get the for free from Renault) and googlin NASCAR budget, from Speed's NASCAR site, they say top teams spend about $20 mil a year.

"To make a race team competitive requires huge budgets, with the top Sprint Cup teams commanding more than $20 million per car annually and winning NNS cars as much as $6 million per year."
http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cu...-nascar-teams/
That's 20mil per car, and the teams run more than one car. The upper teams, Hendrick Motorsports, Roush Fenway Racing, RCR, Penske and Joe Gibbs Racing, are 75-100 mil.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/stor...al-environment


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