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Old 08-26-2012, 02:28 PM
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I recently purchased a set of wheels with Hoosier R6's 245/45/17 and 275/40/17. I purchased the wheels for the rims only since I run Nitto NT-01's. The date code on the fronts and rears are 2006. There are definitely no signs of dry rot cracking and were used basically for autocross. I thought I was going to sell them for $300 but now am apprehensive. Thoughts and opinions welcome.

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If there is no dry rot or cracking they'll be safe to use. They'll just be slow. I doubt anyone will want to pay $300 for them.
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You probably already know about the general "six years" rule of thumb, but I think that's still a tough call without knowing more history on the tires. From what I've read, it may depend on how long the tires were stored (and under what conditions) before first use. Properly stored new tires apparently have a fairly long shelf life, but four or five years?

The amount of tread depth remaining, and the apparent hardness/softness of the rubber (thumb nail "test") might provide some rough estimate of the number of heat cycles completed. If there is less than 2/32" tread depth remaining, and the rubber seems hardened (harder than your NT-01s, for example), they're probably already heat-cycled out. Maybe you could ask the PO more about their history.

The call is even tougher considering that not all heat cycles are equal. I don't even know what constitutes a heat cycle for autocrossing; each and every 60-second run with partial cool-downs, or a set of runs in close temporal proximity with a complete cool-down afterward?

I can see by reading this that I'm not much help. Sorry.
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Go run them once, if they stick well, either keep and keep running them until done, or you can then say they're still decent. Unless you really need to get the NT-01s on them quickly...
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They would not be worth the shipping and mounting to me.
You test them with durometer but, history and heat cycles are still unknown.
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Six years? Try four years is the maximum Goodyear and others recommend. And that is IF they've been stored properly...
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See my post in the "shave NT01?" thread above. I'd try them but IMHO old Hoosiers are junk...
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Hey guys, very much appreciate all your valued opinions. As you can tell I don't have any experience with Hoosiers. I'll use them for fitment purposes of the tire sizes I mentioned for the new Nitto's and dispose of them.

J Richard, I'm extremely pleased with the Nitto's.

Again, many thanks,

Dan
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I agree with Peter. They are too old by a few years. I wouldn't waste a weekend trying them, unless I had another set of good tires to switch to. If it is above 100 degrees, you might get a run or 2 out of them, but I still think the'd be pretty sloppy.
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i just ran 5-6 year old R-6's that had a lot of rubber left on them. They were awesome the first few sessions...just like a R6 with <10 hc. But they quickly fell off after that and became very hard and slick. I'm not sure how many HC were on them prior to remount so they might have simply cycled out. I just bought some 2009-2010 R-6 and they were fine.
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I had an old ho ho fail at VIR - the belt broke, so I would not risk it again.



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