FGL28

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9.5 Degrees

Newey is a gentleman and I would expect nothing short of praise for any of his drivers. Where you really need to go to is someone in the team with no filter like Marko:

When you are in the public eye, giving interviews, sometimes you get misquoted or a quote is mistranslated. It happens in F1 all the time.

But when that interview is in your own in-house magazine, you do not have that excuse. So how are we to read the comments this week in the Red Bulletin from Red Bull special adviser Helmut Marko appearing to slate the team’s own driver, Mark Webber?

“Red Bull puts him in a car – a possible winner – and suddenly along comes this young kid and he snatches the booty from under Mark’s nose. Psychologically it’s not easy, of course; this would gnaw away at anyone’s confidence. It’s more than understandable,” says Marko.

“It seems to me that Webber has on average two races per year where he is unbeatable, but he can’t maintain this form throughout the year. And as soon as his prospects start to look good in the world championship, he has a little trouble with the pressure that this creates.

“In comparison with Seb’s rising form, it seems to me that Mark’s form somehow flattens out. Then, if some technical mishap occurs, like with the alternator for example, he falls relatively easily into a downward spiral.

“No driver remains unaffected by this, because the tension is palpable. In 2010, it was particularly extreme. ”

333pg333

Agreed. Wonder on the experience and talent of Mr 'Life-Time-Critic' to make these universal declamations? Clearly way off the mark as per usual. Not untypical of keyboard warriors with absolutely no connection to the subject they cast their misguided opinions on.

As for ignoring facts...double lmao!...the easy out when criticising Webber is to keep wheeling out the "YEAH!!!!! Webber had the absolute best car in the Universe! What's wrong with that Douche?!?!"
There's been many many races when he's been lucky to have the 7th best car. How many times have the Ferraris, Lotus and Mercs been clearly faster than the RB's? How many times did Webber have no Kers &/or DRS problems when mysteriously they were fine on the No 1 car? Blah blah, conspiracy theorists....it flat out happened on numerous occasions. How many times did he get fastest lap of the race? plenty. not a win but that takes talent. Yes, he did blow the WDC but for the critics who probably have not even done a DE to totally wipe this guy's contribution to F1 is laughable. At least the people involved in F1 actually know talent when it's displayed.

tetzlafh

I don't recall Patrick Long driving for Penske in the RS Spyder....?

Timo and Romain are the regular Porsche prototype drivers with most of the others always coming from Germany (Luhr) or other European countries.

ltc

Keyboard warrior?
I am certain I can drive an electric wheelchair better/faster than anyone in this forum.

Glen

Doubt you will get any rebuffs now........

In fact I believe you still hold the TTD closed course record!

Hope this finds you well!!
GG

Glen

Can't remember what races but I do remember he shared that in that car turn 1 at rd Atlanta was flat, pulling over 4 g's !

CCA

Well, let's hope he performs better than Ralfie & Coultard have in DTM.

JustinL

http://patricklong.com/patrick-long-...rd-at-mosport/

Ritter v4.0

The point is that there are a several better choices (IMO) close at hand or in-house. Seems like Porsche is buying into the F1 hype.

multi21

I understand he is a countryman Patrick, but we're not talking about an isolated incident; there is more than enough of a representative sample from which to draw conclusions over nearly half a decade at the best team

kosmo

i say Pat Dempsey, Pat Long, and Pat Lindsey !

AGO

Brilliant!

ltc

ltc

Pete, you probably don't like koalas or kangaroos either.

FWIW and IMHO, I think "Multi 21" was Seb's "message" to Mark and the team regarding last year at Interlagos when Weber decided to "drive for Ferrari for a lap or two", almost costing Seb the WDC (which he of course won by passing under yellow, but that's another story).

If it were Senna and Prost fighting for the WDC, sure, have at it.
But Weber was mathematically eliminated so what was the point?

Weber might be a nice guy, he probably is, he was the #1 driver at RBR at its start, contributed greatly to their consistency and development of Newey's cars.
But, along comes the Wunderkid, and Weber never came to grips with the fact that
A. Seb is faster than you (TM Rob Smedley, Tifosi Enterprises, a subsidiary of Flav a Flav Law firm, a wholly owned subsidiary of LucaD Enterprises)
B. Seb was the future of the team for a while, having been in the RB system since the Junior forumlae.
C. Mark became, based on performance and (lack of consistency), the #2 in the team immediately after Korea 2010.

And BTW, although I admire the creativity behind deciphering ltc, it has been stated that it stands for Love The Cayenne.