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Old 05-06-2014, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GT3DE
Susan responded to me tonight. She said that the issues were 2:
1) "fairness" to allow others in an oversold event.
2) "fitness" as tired drivers make mistakes.
Originally Posted by KaiB
And I can't disagree at all. Both points are valid.

Now....if we could only get the rules folks to communicate and respond as Susan...
I think the fairness argument holds for oversold events such as Sebring, Glen, etc. Not sure you can apply that argument to VIR.

As for driver fitness, it varies person to person and for different events. Running two sprint groups is different from running two enduro groups.

FWIW, I see less carnage at two-day open track events such as DMTD where people are tracking upwards of 4-5hrs daily than at most PCA races with two 20-30min sprint races a day.
Old 05-06-2014, 01:15 PM
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The fitness thing is highly subjective, hard to assess/police, and also tacitly suggests that most PCA racers are outta shape. I understand the oversold argument but that only applies to a minority of races.
Old 05-06-2014, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jdistefa
suggests that most PCA racers are outta shape. .
ummmm...OK
Old 05-06-2014, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jdistefa
The fitness thing is highly subjective, hard to assess/police, and also tacitly suggests that most PCA racers are outta shape. I understand the oversold argument but that only applies to a minority of races.
It's their way of taking the easy way out. Agree the oversold argument is valid at a few events but their overall position suggests they're just too busy to address an entrant's competency to drive 2 races. For most of us it's easy-peazy but they've taken the lowest common denominator and applied it across the spectrum....
Old 05-06-2014, 03:40 PM
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[QUOTE=GT3DE;11345785]PCA nonsense:
Last year at Road America there were guys driving multiple cars in different classes.
So thought awesome and bought some more cars. I raced two cars at Summit and Carolina at the end of 2013.
Then I registered two cars at Sebring 2014. Nope, not allowed.
Then I registered two cars at Watkins 2014. Nope not allowed.
Asked for reason from PCA... crickets.
Asked again... ignored.
Asked again... nothing.
Wonder what will happen tonight as I again try to register two cars for VIR.

Looks like the only time you were turned down was at Sold Out events. Why should you get in an event with 2 cars and block someone else from getting in at all?
Old 05-06-2014, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KaiB
ummmm...OK
Kai, I'll PM you a pic of me in a speedo.
Old 05-06-2014, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
It's their way of taking the easy way out. Agree the oversold argument is valid at a few events but their overall position suggests they're just too busy to address an entrant's competency to drive 2 races. For most of us it's easy-peazy but they've taken the lowest common denominator and applied it across the spectrum....
BINGO
Old 05-06-2014, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jdistefa
Kai, I'll PM you a pic of me in a speedo.
That's me, center right in the suit with the yellow sides.

I know what fit is.

Old 05-06-2014, 04:05 PM
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Should we have a fitness test before each race weekend?
From a lot of the guys I have seen racing at PCA I would assume that they wouldn't be fit enough to race AT ALL if there was a test/standard.
If the most unfit guy is okay to race 2 sprints and an enduro then I should be able to race in every sprint (6) and enduro (2 or 3) all weekend.
How many pullups, situps and jumping jacks do I need to do? Maybe run a few miles for them?
This is so f'ing stupid.
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KaiB
That's me, center right in the suit with the yellow sides.

I know what fit is.

Is that a banana in your pocket or?.....
Old 05-06-2014, 05:19 PM
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan_H

Looks like the only time you were turned down was at Sold Out events. Why should you get in an event with 2 cars and block someone else from getting in at all?
Wonder if the OP knows who wrote this.
Old 05-06-2014, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GT3DE
From a lot of the guys I have seen racing at PCA I would assume that they wouldn't be fit enough to race AT ALL if there was a test/standard.
QOTD winner!

"Hey, did ya hear??? Clark flunked the fitness test and he has 3 cars here this weekend!"

Just poking fun… for the packed events the logic makes sense, but for the others… the more racers the merrier!


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