FINALLY! The 3.8L PDK Cayman has another home in Club Racing!
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FINALLY! The 3.8L PDK Cayman has another home in Club Racing!
After some lobbying, we have managed to find yet another home for the Cayman with 3.8L DFI X51 power in Club Racing. The SCCA's Touring 1 class which has some relatively stiff competition, has a line item now for essentially what was our 2013 Championship winning Rolex GX car.
A link to the GCR can be found here on p.797:
http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...R%20August.pdf
HIGHLIGHTS:
Min Weight - 2900 lbs
Engine - Whatever engine Porsche makes! (we are going to go with the Carrera GTS engine for now, until our Cayman sequential project is over, then maybe GT3?)
Transmission - Free (we are going to use PDK)
Suspension - Full solid with a permitted 1" offset.
Brakes - Free up to 355mm along with factory ABS and 6-piston calipers.
Flywheel - Lightweight flywheel allowed.
Tires / Wheels - Tires/wheels are free.
Additional: - 50lbs extra for modified rear suspensions. Who wants to install a 997 rear subframe??!?! , full carbon fiber body work allowed, lexan, shocks, etc.
This is going to be a great car and with the 2015 SCCA National Championship Runoffs coming to Daytona next year, we know what our goals for next year are!
Thank you Sports Car Club of America!
2013 Detroit GP - Dr. Jim Norman qualifies outside pole to split a pair of factory backed Mazda GX diesel prototype GT cars. We finished 2nd and went on to win the Team and Driver's Championship after the final race at Lime Rock Park in September 2013.
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John,
Your customers can also run such a car with the Porsche Owners Club (POC) on the West Coast. It could run GT2 as-is or restrict the RWHP a bit to bring the car back to GT3.
Cheers,
Your customers can also run such a car with the Porsche Owners Club (POC) on the West Coast. It could run GT2 as-is or restrict the RWHP a bit to bring the car back to GT3.
Cheers,
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I saw some custom 3.8 Caymans registered as GTB2 at a race earlier this year, but I think that was a mistake. Porsche never made a 3.8 Cayman. My reading is that a 3.8 cayman should not be allowed as GTB2
Just saying
Just saying
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Duane,
Thanks to you, there is very much a home for these cars on the west coast but on the east coast, the ITC series seems to be supporting the brand a lot but no one else. My intentions are to try and find as many homes for this car and I think it's great you guys have that out there.
I keep getting inquiries and requests about running something like this in the 25 hours at Thunderhill. Do you guys ever think about taking a Cayman to that event? What about a pool of interested Rennlisters? Get Mooty into it. If got enough customers, it might be fun.
Thanks to you, there is very much a home for these cars on the west coast but on the east coast, the ITC series seems to be supporting the brand a lot but no one else. My intentions are to try and find as many homes for this car and I think it's great you guys have that out there.
I keep getting inquiries and requests about running something like this in the 25 hours at Thunderhill. Do you guys ever think about taking a Cayman to that event? What about a pool of interested Rennlisters? Get Mooty into it. If got enough customers, it might be fun.
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Class GTB
Normally aspirated 996 or 997 (excluding GT3) or Cayman S and R production street cars modified according to the rules for these
classes. See table in weights section for minimum weights by model and engine, which include an additional 100 pounds for PDK
transmissions. PDK cars, except for those available only with the PDK, must include a “P” in their front and rear class lettering so that
the Scrutineers will be able to know what a car’s minimum weight is - (for example, “B1P”).
GTB2: cars with displacement over 3.6L displacement, and the 2014 Cayman S.
A. Drivetrain: Cars must have an unmodified production engine, transmission and gears, ECU, and chassis. While the ECUs
must remain stock, the flash (programming) is free. Flywheels may be replaced with a single mass, ferrous (magnetic)
material flywheel; clutch disk must remain the stock diameter. Caymans may have an underdrive pulley for the power
steering belt. For this class, the engine begins at the input to the MAF, and ends where the exhaust manifold is
attached. The oiling modifications allowed under Stock 1.K. are permitted.
B. Suspension: Bushing materials are free. Suspension pick-up points and components must remain stock except that GT3
or GT3 Cup lower control arms and GT3 adjustable rear toe links are allowed. Springs, shocks, and camber plates are
free.
C. Bodywork: Bodywork changes are limited to those found on a GT3 Cup; if a wing is used it must be a GT3 wing or
factory non-extended 996 or 997 through model year 2009 GT3 Cup wing. Cayman based cars may also use the Cayman
Interseries or ITC wing. The permitted wing may be raised to improve rear visibility, but no more than 4'8" above the
ground at the top of the wing, and may be no farther to the rear than it would be if in its standard position.
Modifications to the underside of the vehicle for improving aerodynamics are not allowed.
D. Other GT modifications are allowed.
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I thought this was pretty definitive..
"Cars must have an unmodified production engine, transmission and gears, ECU, and chassis"
If not, I am going to put a stock GT3 engine and Stock (shorter) 996 Cup gearbox in my 997 chassis. Aww heck.. Who am I kidding? A "stock" cup engine.
The extra point of clarity is the Class Weight Tables at the end of the rule book.
"Cars must have an unmodified production engine, transmission and gears, ECU, and chassis"
If not, I am going to put a stock GT3 engine and Stock (shorter) 996 Cup gearbox in my 997 chassis. Aww heck.. Who am I kidding? A "stock" cup engine.
The extra point of clarity is the Class Weight Tables at the end of the rule book.
I don't see anything in 2014 rules that would exclude a 3.8L cayman from running gtb2.
Class GTB
Normally aspirated 996 or 997 (excluding GT3) or Cayman S and R production street cars modified according to the rules for these
classes. See table in weights section for minimum weights by model and engine, which include an additional 100 pounds for PDK
transmissions. PDK cars, except for those available only with the PDK, must include a “P” in their front and rear class lettering so that
the Scrutineers will be able to know what a car’s minimum weight is - (for example, “B1P”).
GTB2: cars with displacement over 3.6L displacement, and the 2014 Cayman S.
A. Drivetrain: Cars must have an unmodified production engine, transmission and gears, ECU, and chassis. While the ECUs
must remain stock, the flash (programming) is free. Flywheels may be replaced with a single mass, ferrous (magnetic)
material flywheel; clutch disk must remain the stock diameter. Caymans may have an underdrive pulley for the power
steering belt. For this class, the engine begins at the input to the MAF, and ends where the exhaust manifold is
attached. The oiling modifications allowed under Stock 1.K. are permitted.
B. Suspension: Bushing materials are free. Suspension pick-up points and components must remain stock except that GT3
or GT3 Cup lower control arms and GT3 adjustable rear toe links are allowed. Springs, shocks, and camber plates are
free.
C. Bodywork: Bodywork changes are limited to those found on a GT3 Cup; if a wing is used it must be a GT3 wing or
factory non-extended 996 or 997 through model year 2009 GT3 Cup wing. Cayman based cars may also use the Cayman
Interseries or ITC wing. The permitted wing may be raised to improve rear visibility, but no more than 4'8" above the
ground at the top of the wing, and may be no farther to the rear than it would be if in its standard position.
Modifications to the underside of the vehicle for improving aerodynamics are not allowed.
D. Other GT modifications are allowed.
Class GTB
Normally aspirated 996 or 997 (excluding GT3) or Cayman S and R production street cars modified according to the rules for these
classes. See table in weights section for minimum weights by model and engine, which include an additional 100 pounds for PDK
transmissions. PDK cars, except for those available only with the PDK, must include a “P” in their front and rear class lettering so that
the Scrutineers will be able to know what a car’s minimum weight is - (for example, “B1P”).
GTB2: cars with displacement over 3.6L displacement, and the 2014 Cayman S.
A. Drivetrain: Cars must have an unmodified production engine, transmission and gears, ECU, and chassis. While the ECUs
must remain stock, the flash (programming) is free. Flywheels may be replaced with a single mass, ferrous (magnetic)
material flywheel; clutch disk must remain the stock diameter. Caymans may have an underdrive pulley for the power
steering belt. For this class, the engine begins at the input to the MAF, and ends where the exhaust manifold is
attached. The oiling modifications allowed under Stock 1.K. are permitted.
B. Suspension: Bushing materials are free. Suspension pick-up points and components must remain stock except that GT3
or GT3 Cup lower control arms and GT3 adjustable rear toe links are allowed. Springs, shocks, and camber plates are
free.
C. Bodywork: Bodywork changes are limited to those found on a GT3 Cup; if a wing is used it must be a GT3 wing or
factory non-extended 996 or 997 through model year 2009 GT3 Cup wing. Cayman based cars may also use the Cayman
Interseries or ITC wing. The permitted wing may be raised to improve rear visibility, but no more than 4'8" above the
ground at the top of the wing, and may be no farther to the rear than it would be if in its standard position.
Modifications to the underside of the vehicle for improving aerodynamics are not allowed.
D. Other GT modifications are allowed.
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Don't forget the 3.8 Cayman can run in NASA with as many mods as you want. it will slot into GTS-4 or 5 depending on HP and weight.
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Tell me more. There is a Daytona NASA event Halloween weekend and I think we want to register and shakedown and run there. I used to run NASA when I lived in So Cal; I ran the 25hours of Thunderhill 5 years in a row almost winning it overall by 23 seconds in a Honda in the 5th and final year. I LOVE NASA! Thanks Mike!