Who wears racing suit for DE events
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For various DE events I have attended through the years, I have usually worn a suit, but not always. I have not always worn a suit while instructing at DE events.
Interesting to note that my PCA region required a driver's suit for DE/Time Trial after your first two events. This rule when already in place when I arrived circa 1991. So for those events I always wore a suit.
Last year, for the first time, I tried a fire retardant undergarment-- a Traqgear lightweight shirt. Lasted two events then ripped to shreds. Too flimsy. Quite disappointing.
I will probably buy a Sparco, Freem or similar undershirt this year.
I think there are many more suits with lighter materials now than when I started, so folks have more choices if they want to buy a suit that can be tolerable in hotter weather.
I have seen a lot of interesting outfits at DE's and even in light duty races. The strangest one I saw was a guy wearing a 70's era polyester/ or whatever track warm up suit. I think he was an Eastern European.
Have not seen too many fires in my 30 years of track driving and racing, but as McQueen said... it can happen to ya. Last June I saw one at Sears Point-- we all were sure the driver was burned alive. Luckily he was out before we caught sight of the incident. He was trying to make it into the pit lane, going slowly with a disabled car. Got rear ended. I was told the issue was a fuel leak and he knew about it. Lots of damage to the car and the track. Sobering.
Years ago, a racer I know had a fire sparked by static electricity when he was fueling his 356 race car. Apparently he was using the ubiquitous plastic funnel and ubiquitous fuel bottle... when they touched flames erupted. Luckily no one was hurt and the car wasn't too badly damaged. My friend/engine builder had an alum. funnel made as a result of his customer's experience... I am always reminded when I see it.
I weigh my canopy down with 5 gallon buckets of water-- I figure it might be handy if I have an issue in the paddock.
Interesting to note that my PCA region required a driver's suit for DE/Time Trial after your first two events. This rule when already in place when I arrived circa 1991. So for those events I always wore a suit.
Last year, for the first time, I tried a fire retardant undergarment-- a Traqgear lightweight shirt. Lasted two events then ripped to shreds. Too flimsy. Quite disappointing.
I will probably buy a Sparco, Freem or similar undershirt this year.
I think there are many more suits with lighter materials now than when I started, so folks have more choices if they want to buy a suit that can be tolerable in hotter weather.
I have seen a lot of interesting outfits at DE's and even in light duty races. The strangest one I saw was a guy wearing a 70's era polyester/ or whatever track warm up suit. I think he was an Eastern European.
Have not seen too many fires in my 30 years of track driving and racing, but as McQueen said... it can happen to ya. Last June I saw one at Sears Point-- we all were sure the driver was burned alive. Luckily he was out before we caught sight of the incident. He was trying to make it into the pit lane, going slowly with a disabled car. Got rear ended. I was told the issue was a fuel leak and he knew about it. Lots of damage to the car and the track. Sobering.
Years ago, a racer I know had a fire sparked by static electricity when he was fueling his 356 race car. Apparently he was using the ubiquitous plastic funnel and ubiquitous fuel bottle... when they touched flames erupted. Luckily no one was hurt and the car wasn't too badly damaged. My friend/engine builder had an alum. funnel made as a result of his customer's experience... I am always reminded when I see it.
I weigh my canopy down with 5 gallon buckets of water-- I figure it might be handy if I have an issue in the paddock.
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I always wear my suit nown. I even just ordered a made to measure OMP.
Besides the safety part, for.menits part of my performance switch to be mentally ready to drive.
Besides the safety part, for.menits part of my performance switch to be mentally ready to drive.
#198
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You don't have to look too hard to find videos of worst-case scenarios involving fire. They don't happen often, but man, when they do the results can be devastating. Someone posted a video here a few years ago of a car running (in NASA maybe?) that caught fire while on track. The guy stopped quickly and dove out of the car in like 10 seconds from the time the fire started. He was wearing full gear but wound up with third degree burns over a substantial portion of his body. Imagine if that had happened during a DE, and he had jeans and a t shirt on ...
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Nice site! Good job on the review. Very informative.
I’ll add that folks need to prepare for the worst, especially if driving a purpose built car.
Last week, I was leaning checking a camera inside a pro-built Trans Am car at a Track day while the owner was starting the car and warming It up. Unbeknownst to both of us, it was about to get very warm inside and out.
About thirty seconds after ignition, we heard it before we saw it, a huge wall of flame into the passenger compartment from numerous openings in the firewall (hmmm) area and around the trans tunnel. The car was on fire!
Turns out one of the end caps off the fuel rail had loosened/fallen off and filled the vee with fuel. It finally poured down the back of the motor over the bellhousing and ignited on the right side header collector.
The driver was in a t-shirt and shorts (after all, he was just starting the car to warm it up, right?) but still took a good amount of time to get out through the fixed window opening. I leaned back in to trip the fire system (had to pull the pin first) and then realized that the power was still on for the fuel pump even though he had turned off the ignition before exiting the car.
It was really scary. And thankfully, no one was hurt. But everyone should prepare for a) the quickest shut down and exit plan from a car on fire, b) having extinguishers ready and available and c) every moment in the car you need to be prepared.
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It use to be a common practice to run the fuel and oil lines through the driver's compartment. That is something I would really think needs to be checked.
#202
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I only wear my suit when it’s required for racing. DE with a race suit is just too embarassing.
Lots of veterans posting stories in this thread, great resource!
#203
Look, to each their own. I don't DE much and in my opinion modern cars are very safe regarding fire. If i was in an old car I may feel differently, but I'd rather not deal with changing clothes. I'm lazy. It's a personal choice
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#205
The people making fun of suits at DE’s aren’t anyone you should be concerned with earning their respect anyways.
I’d have to imagine that having limbs scarred by skin grafts from burns is going to be way more embarrassing when out in the general public than wearing your suit at a small driving event.
But you’re right: to each their own.
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Just my two-cents' worth on the subject. I will always wear at least nomex underwear and balaclava if I'm instructing someone in a street car with all interior intact. If the car is stripped out, I'll upgrade to the race suit on top - it's just not worth the risk!
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Just my two-cents' worth on the subject. I will always wear at least nomex underwear and balaclava if I'm instructing someone in a street car with all interior intact. If the car is stripped out, I'll upgrade to the race suit on top - it's just not worth the risk!
My suggestion: Wear a suit. If you don't want to wear a suit, then at least wear something FR. Lots of stuff out there that you can wear that looks like normal clothes and is flame resistant. Cotton and poly does not qualify.
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I had an accident 2 years ago at a DE and the only thing I could think of as I heard dripping fluids was "why didn't I wear a suit!" as I had all of the other safety gear on (harnesses, cage, hans, etc.). At a DE this weekend I wore my suit and while people looked at me a bit strange since I am "just an intermediate driver" I don't really care. A few bucks to be safer is a no-brainer to me, even if it is a little hot. At the same time I don't try to judge the guys with GT3s and Turbos with full Hoosiers and PSM on missing every apex and claiming how fast they are (when they are probably 10 seconds a lap slower than what their car can do.. but I digress...)
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If it is cool weather out, and I am lazy, I wear my race suit to the track and back home.
I stopped for gas just a few weeks ago near Lime Rock and some old guy says, in a very mocking way, "what do you think you are some kind of race car driver?" and goes vroom vroom. I just laughed and said, "Actually I am a race car driver." I smiled, got back in my truck and pulled off.
Who cares what people think? I saved about ten minutes by not having to suit up twice in one morning! I'd consider driving to the track in my underwear in warmer weather if my wife didn't stop me. IDGAF!
I stopped for gas just a few weeks ago near Lime Rock and some old guy says, in a very mocking way, "what do you think you are some kind of race car driver?" and goes vroom vroom. I just laughed and said, "Actually I am a race car driver." I smiled, got back in my truck and pulled off.
Who cares what people think? I saved about ten minutes by not having to suit up twice in one morning! I'd consider driving to the track in my underwear in warmer weather if my wife didn't stop me. IDGAF!