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Maybe all tracks should be made more "charming" by re/paving them with bumps by design. Race classes could also be made more "charming" by mandating flat-spotted tires or oval wheels. Imagine the fun! The challenge!
Variations in track grip due to surface, paint, bumps, etc. are still taught and discussed with coaches. The rest is just silliness.
Not racing long enough to say it about LRP but I did say it about WGI.
Hah! You should have driven LRP before the 1996 repave. Damn near as bad as Sebring T17, especially near the verges on the left on the front straight...
Check out any of the old Diamond P Sports Production videos of the late 1980s IMSA GTP races. I'm surprised any of those guys have fillings left...
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Variations in track grip due to surface, paint, bumps, etc. are still taught and discussed with coaches.
If you prefer Sebring bumpy, then you must also agree that all tracks would be made more "interesting" and "challenging" by adding random bumps, surface and paint changes during re/pave. Or is there something special about Sebring that makes bumps more desirable vs other tracks?
So far, the track weekends still seem to fill up / sell out.
Repaving over 17/1 isn't a fix, it is a cover up that won't last, will deteriorate over time. Ripping up and replacing is a price point none could swallow and make a profit.
I suspect the race teams have more say on it then us weekend worriers. It is a great test bed for them as has been pointed out. That runway concrete would be a chore to pull out and replace. It would be a deep backfill.
Let me know when it get's to Nelson Ledges level of "Character", until then... test your metal at the crucibele of endurance.. of not.
Repaving over 17/1 isn't a fix, it is a cover up that won't last, will deteriorate over time. Ripping up and replacing is a price point none could swallow and make a profit.
I suspect the race teams have more say on it then us weekend worriers. It is a great test bed for them as has been pointed out. That runway concrete would be a chore to pull out and replace.
You can easily pave over concrete provided you brake it up a bit so the pieces can settle. There is no need to pull anything up.
I agree that Sebring makes a good testing ground due to its abusive character.
If you prefer Sebring bumpy, then you must also agree that all tracks would be made more "interesting" and "challenging" by adding random bumps, surface and paint changes during re/pave. Or is there something special about Sebring that makes bumps more desirable vs other tracks?
It is different because the challenging surface is what Sebring is known for.
WGI is still WGI after it has been repaved because it didn't change the fundamental character of the track. A repave of Sebring would.
Originally Posted by ProCoach
Hah! You should have driven LRP before the 1996 repave. Damn near as bad as Sebring T17, especially near the verges on the left on the front straight...
Started hitting the track in earnest less than five years ago. But I figure on RL that qualifies me as an expert!
Originally Posted by Frank 993 C4S
I agree that Sebring makes a good testing ground due to its abusive character.
Just drove it yesterday, it really isn't anything crazy. Not sure what the point was at T6. Braking into T7 I can understand. The track has no shortage of character! lol
If you've ever walked/bicycled Sebring, you know that there IS elevation change from Turn 10 to Tower Turn... I would estimate maybe 10 inches over a half-mile. In Florida, that's what we would call a steep incline. (Shot below is from 1952.)
Repaving over 17/1 isn't a fix, it is a cover up that won't last, will deteriorate over time. Ripping up and replacing is a price point none could swallow and make a profit.
All that concrete can be milled smooth and any imperfections in the concrete patched, no need to put the black stuff on top of it.
All that concrete can be milled smooth and any imperfections in the concrete patched, no need to put the black stuff on top of it.
This makes the most sense and can be done with laser level equipment.
But I still think that if it weren't Sebring as we know it, would people still still drive to the middle of Florida to stay in Sebring and drive a track as flat as a book keepers behind....
Sebring is character and teaches you good car control.
If you have a good damper guy, then not a problem....
Clubsport, well I was relieved when Allen said they would not be doing Sebring for a while.
11-11-2016, 05:30 PM
test your metal at the crucibele of endurance.. of not.
(Shot below is from 1952.)
