Anakin Skywalker

That’s funny. It looks like a boat launch about 150km north of Kingston.

Crazy Canuck

Not gonna happen. EVs cannot do eveyrhing ICE can do. They do make sense for certain applications at present.

Besides, the electrical grid in many neighborhoods cannot support more than a few electric cars charging. Most older homes have 100A service. 200A minimum will be required.
Let alone condo/apartment buildings and on street parking. Now add deficient generating capacity.

No charging spots and a strained electrical grid. Welcome to the electric vehicle boom.

https://www.macleans.ca/society/technology/no-charging-spots-and-a-strained-electrical-grid-welcome-to-the-electric-vehicle-boom/

JonCanadian

Another factor will be remote communities. Last Fall, we roadtripped from Ottawa in our Macan and got as far west as Revelstoke (10,000 km return). There were times in Northern Ontario (eg. Hearst to Thunder Bay) when it was 250 km to the next gas station. And that was a major highway (hwy 11)! It's going to take a long long time to bring charging infrastructure to places like that.

Jamie140

Lol, my first posting of my current gig 25 years ago was in SK. I can't even spell in anymore. Outside of the major towns, try leaving home without a full tank of gas in the winter.

Anakin Skywalker

There is so much work to do before the fleet fully transitions to EV. Leave aside price and range, what about urban dwellers? Here in the suburbs of Lawrence Park the street parking is full because many people don’t have garages or front yard parking. That’s the same in most cities in the world. How does any one using on-street parking charge the EV?

They’ll have to lower the recharge time for an EV to the same as the fuel up time as an ICE, and it doesn’t seem like that’s on the horizon.

YYZGT3

I don't know what to tell you. With Europe, Canada, and the US all banning new ICE cars, even if the Conservatives one day gets into power (lol!), there just won't be any ICE vehicles produced before long. They're being phased out of their upcoming released schedule, planned five to ten years in advance, as we speak. There is federal dollars for superchargers, and I know the government is planning to put them everywhere on well travelled routes across Canada soon.

For those off the beaten path, well, they'd better take great care of their current car, because it likely won't be replaceable with another ICE vehicle. I suspect they will move to a city.

YYZGT3

There are definitely challenges, but the federal government has a blank check from voters to spend what they need to, in order to end gas engines. I've heard rumours of a $25K federal EV credit coming, which will stack with provincial ones.

""The vast majority of vehicles purchased today are SUVs and pickup trucks, and while (zero-emission vehicle) options are becoming available for these segments, many of these will be priced out of the current iZEV program," Alghabra said in a written statement issued by his office.

It also omits used vehicles, for which there is an emerging market.

"That’s why our government is looking at how the program may be revised to better align with current consumer preferences," Alghabra said."

https://ottawa.citynews.ca/national-...ickups-4854636

reacp911

I don't disagree with your general sentiments, but regarding the location you mentioned, I can tell you that between Lawrence and Blythwood, everyone has a private drive.

30 Years ago, I lived north of Lawrence and I'm not aware of any house there that does not have the capability of front yard parking. At that time, the city frowned on front yard parking, but I think if the demand is there for charging electric vehicles, it will become easier or even desirable.

.2PDK

The roads are too congested as is, hopefully gas prices get to the point where the lower classes will have to ditch their sh*boxes and walk/cycle.

Good for the environment and our healthcare system.

Don't forget people, driving is a privilege not a right...

moab

And there was a time when I disagreed with everything you said...

petee_c

I'm looking at a EV as my next vehicle....

You have to remember for most home owners *outside of 'downtown' Toronto*, every day that you sleep at home, you can start the next day with a tank that is 80% full.. Heading to the cottage for the weekend? Set it to top off to 100% the night before. I can wire up a 240v outlet at the cottage for the charging for the ride home..

I have a garage and 200amp service to my house. I do need to add a subpanel, cause the current one is full. The main panel to the garage is about 8'.

I plan to maybe need a DC fast charger once a month if that. Apparently some vehicles can get 80% charge in 30 minutes.... Probably can get 100+km range at 10 minutes....

9964runner

30 Years ago, I lived north of Lawrence and I'm not aware of any house there that does not have the capability of front yard parking. At that time, the city frowned on front yard parking, but I think if the demand is there for charging electric vehicles, it will become easier or even desirable.[/QUOTE]

North of Lawrence between Avenue and Yonge driveways are rare, at best you'd squeeze a Smart car between the sidewalk and front door.

reacp911

I lived east of yonge, but name a street. Also, many of these houses are now being rebuilt, either with builtin garages, or more room in front

Anakin Skywalker

Installing electric chargers for on street parking south of Eglinton is, I’m going to guess, something into 9 digits. I’m all in favour of EVs but good luck with the infrastructure. And it’s not just Toronto, which is a comparatively wealthy city. It’s the rest of the cities in the world you’ve got to wire up with high amperage too.

Raising the cost of a litre of gas is a much easier way of changing wasteful, polluting, behaviour on the roads. People will gravitate to EVs if they are cheaper than ICE and they’ll live accordingly.

It will take a long time to alter the ICE fleet.

ronnie993tt

Pandering to his fellow communists. Doesn't matter what he or anyone else says. Simply is not feasible.