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I have my dealer in the Prairies reaching out for C2S, C4S and Targa 4S with allocations configurable for late spring arrival.
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Things are definitely opening up a little. Had a dealer reach out with a lower price on a Carrera T that I made an offer on (that was rejected) 4 weeks ago. Also, spoke with my SA about getting another Macan S before they go fully EV and he said he could get me a factory order in 3-4 months if I placed one today.
Also, spoke with my SA about getting another Macan S before they go fully EV and he said he could get me a factory order in 3-4 months if I placed one today.
It has been that way since last spring... clearly they have Macan production cranked to take advantage of the demand before the next gen model arrives.
If only they would do the same with the GT models...
I think for the first two quarters of 2024 will be the best time to buy a car. - For anyone following the automotive market, there is a lot of new requirements in the EU come July 1 2024 that will be impacting a lot of vehicles. Although they may seem not that big of a deal, the cost to manufacturers are starting to add up. The EV push is going to be a strong one come the 2025 model year going forward.
In France alone the emissions tax on a 4.0 Cayman is 60,000 Euros. Many other countries are implementing unreasonable taxes to force manufacturers into EV's.... Economies of scale are at play here. If you're thinking of a new ICE car from a European brand.... this year is the time to buy.
I think for the first two quarters of 2024 will be the best time to buy a car. - For anyone following the automotive market, there is a lot of new requirements in the EU come July 1 2024 that will be impacting a lot of vehicles. Although they may seem not that big of a deal, the cost to manufacturers are starting to add up. The EV push is going to be a strong one come the 2025 model year going forward.
In France alone the emissions tax on a 4.0 Cayman is 60,000 Euros. Many other countries are implementing unreasonable taxes to force manufacturers into EV's.... Economies of scale are at play here. If you're thinking of a new ICE car from a European brand.... this year is the time to buy.
can u please explain how these pressures to the manufacturer translate into savings for the consumer?
can u please explain how these pressures to the manufacturer translate into savings for the consumer?
My point is that models after 2024 will be considerable more expensive as manufacturers are being pressured to make changes due to either emissions regulations or safety regulations. Some cars being built today will need to be modified heavily to be sold past 2024. Porsche Macan's for example, in its current form will not be updated to be sold in EU due to new safety requirements for ADAS. The new version will surely cost more. We are at an inflection point in the global automotive world, where major manufactures are being forced to implement new technologies and with that a certain cost will have to be paid by the consumer.
We have known these things were coming for the past couple years , as it was passed in 2022 I believe. Forcing auto manufacturers to scrap plans for re-designs and force them into EV's or other hybrid options. The French tax is another example of this. I mean who is really going to pay a 60K Euro tax ontop of VAT tax (EURO Tax) for a 911 or Cayman. Very few people as this will in turn raise the prices of vehicles as the productions numbers begin to fall for all and any ICE vehicle.
EV's although cheaper to produce due to less labour and parts required, still need to be scaled up and requires revamps of major factories that will cost companies billions of dollars. Regulators are forcing them to upgrade at a faster pace than originally intended and because of this, I would fully expect new vehicle prices to continue to climb. Even though the majority of these regs are coming from Asian and EU countries, it affects the bottom line of any major global auto manufacturer that sells vehicles in these areas. Hence, why I think the next 6 months may be the best time to buy a new car, before the new models get released with all the updates.... Just my 2 cents.
I think for the first two quarters of 2024 will be the best time to buy a car. - For anyone following the automotive market, there is a lot of new requirements in the EU come July 1 2024 that will be impacting a lot of vehicles. Although they may seem not that big of a deal, the cost to manufacturers are starting to add up. The EV push is going to be a strong one come the 2025 model year going forward.
In France alone the emissions tax on a 4.0 Cayman is 60,000 Euros. Many other countries are implementing unreasonable taxes to force manufacturers into EV's.... Economies of scale are at play here. If you're thinking of a new ICE car from a European brand.... this year is the time to buy.
This is so absurd I couldn't believe this until I found the actual French document.
The rates are as high as 3000 euro per incremental g / CO2 / km. This is economic absurdity and just an attempt to penalize the rich. 1 g / CO2 / km over the life of a car at 200,000km is 200kg. Charging euro 3000 for this means 15000 euro per ton, which is way beyond any other carbon tax. This is just a FU to people with fancy cars and not any rational measure. And just in case, I agree that climate change is real and serious, but it should be addressed with economically sane measures.
I think they fully expect no-one to pay those taxes - they are outrageous! It is a form of killing ICE and moving into electric. Essentially forcing manufacturers to either abandon their market or conform to the policies. I think the death of ICE is closer in EU than here. They don't produce as much oil as N/A, so perhaps it makes sense the europeans move on from fossil fuels into something (electricity) they produce at home. It is still pretty crazy.
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