RGJ

http://www.citynews.ca/2016/01/18/se...ion-standards/

Christien

This is good. It's long overdue. There are far too many sh!tboxes on the road, and there are way too many things that can get past a safety. Believe me, I've worked in the industry for almost 15 years. Ditch the e-test and make cars safer - that's where we should be looking.

Brian 162

If they wanted to weed out the ****boxes on the road they should have a yearly vehicle inspection like they have on large commercial vehicles.
I agree, get rid of Drive Clean.

993GT

agree we need to get the crap off the road, but this won't do anything...how will it stop people getting a 'hot' safety...
Worried about the currently undefined limits on suspension, brake etc...modifications?
DriveClean is DirtyMoney...doesn't help the environment at all and costs many people money(who most often don't have it)

Turbodan

I think this is a cash grab. some of the new rules don't make any sense: no spacers allowed on wheels...race cars use them why can't we? This will cause a lot of headaches for buying or selling a used car. Guess this will create a lot of waste as cars go to the scrapper.

993GT

+1, and about spacers, many cars come with them from the factory, 'safe' for the road or a safety-fail?
Onterrible....

Ronan

Will mean that car modification will have to be very carefully judged, nonetheless.
Not much experience in this area, but when I sold my M6 we just went to Service Ontario and did the transfer. Car was six years old and perfect as it happened, but there seemed to be nothing required other than five minutes of paperwork on a private sale.
This was about three or four years ago. When would there have had to be a safety inspection?

993GT

Currently a safety is valid for 36days, if you bought and sold the car within that time frame the safety is still valid during the re-sale. Etest valid for 1 year for ownership transfer, 2 year for plate sticker renewal
Otherwise, you essentially sold it 'as-is'

Ronan

Cas was indeed sold "as is". I had invited the buyer to bring it for a full inspection if he wished but he was happy to take the car as it was.

Although it was six years old it only has 36000km on it.

Turbodan

so he just registered the car in his name as "unfit" and then got the safety and etest if needed, and then got plates and registered it as fit.

Christien

I agree, yearly inspections are a good idea. Maybe every other year, or even every 5 years, but to be able to keep a car on the road for 20 years with no inspection makes no sense. My 43-year-old 911 could be a completely unsafe sh!tbox, but it would still be perfectly legal to drive.

He would have had to transfer it "unfit" without a valid safety certificate, which means it can't be driven on the road, unless he got a trip permit for it.

theiceman

wow oil leaks will fail a safety ?

say goodbye to just about every aircooled 911 on the road as well as just about every Audi ever built.

Torontoworker

The one person in Ontario that you CAN transfer a car to without a safety inspection - is your spouse. The *theory* here is that you're not trying to kill your spouse.

Imo000

All the hype about unsafe $hitboxes running around but I yet to see any figures indicating that there are vehicles out there causing collissions because of this. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the yearly safety inspections like they do in many other parts of the World but I think this is just another cash grab.

Edit: Just read the article. I thought you didn't even need an engine to get a safety. The article states it had to get the vehicle up to 60km/h. Is this true?

993GT

When buying a currently plated/'on-road' car, do not register it as 'unfit', keep it 'fit' registered(by having insurance when you register it and get temp. plates) so you can still drive the car to get a safety/etest...registering as unfit means it has to be towed