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Old 05-25-2020, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Porsches
Now that the license plates were screwed up AGAIN in Ontario, can we please just cut 50% of the cost of new ones for everyone and remove the requirement for front plates?
Even if they eliminated the front plate, do you really think any government would reduce the fee to drivers by 50% ? LOL.
The savings in production would be minimal.
And yeah, pretty low the the list of priorities all thing considered.
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Originally Posted by wc11
Even if they eliminated the front plate, do you really think any government would reduce the fee to drivers by 50% ?
No I fully expect them to increase fees on carbon cars (up by double) - and make battery cars new plates to virtually zero....and ether way, just get rid of the plate and make it into a law. It's not aerodynamically efficient to be there. So enough is enough. Not needed. Get rid of it.

In fact, make front plates illegal.
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Originally Posted by Porsches
No I fully expect them to increase fees on carbon cars (up by double) - and make battery cars new plates to virtually zero....and ether way, just get rid of the plate and make it into a law. It's not aerodynamically efficient to be there. So enough is enough. Not needed. Get rid of it.

In fact, make front plates illegal.
Or you can do what I do. Lost my front plate 15 years ago and have been driving without it since then. Only got 2 tickets.
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Originally Posted by Porsches
No I fully expect them to increase fees on carbon cars (up by double) - and make battery cars new plates to virtually zero....and ether way, just get rid of the plate and make it into a law. It's not aerodynamically efficient to be there. So enough is enough. Not needed. Get rid of it.

In fact, make front plates illegal.
Let's scrap drivers' licences while we're at it. No one can drive anyway and they just increase fuel consumption due to the added weight of you having to carry one.
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Quite amusing to see people worried about the aerodynamic efficiency of plates...at (say) 130Km/h?....seems not to worry anyone in Germany when at higher speeds I assume it might be an issue. (doubtful)- even seeing a Chiron factory hack at the Ring last year ( sorry about my pic quality) depicts it has a front plate:







I suppose if you are driving at the limit on a track day you could remove the plate for the session, but I doubt any measurable; difference.. Personally I am not likely to get so close to the performance envelope of any of my cars that it makes the slightest difference. I am in awe of the skill of those who can achieve this.

It seems just to be some North American obsession for the appearance; If the rules change will not bother me. Have lived in Quebec and Ontario and just adapted to the various rules.

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The people who think we MUST have a front plate, I don’t get it. It should be optional and my own choice.
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Originally Posted by Porsches
The people who think we MUST have a front plate, I don’t get it. It should be optional and my own choice.
The people who think we must NOT have a front plate, I don’t get it.
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Originally Posted by Imo000
The people who think we must NOT have a front plate, I don’t get it.
1st world problems. LOL
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Originally Posted by Adamant1971
1st world problems. LOL
Precisely..if it regulated I do it either way they decide. No if living in Quebec and yes in Ontario. Very Canadian....

..apart from the severe aerodynamic efficiency problem of course!
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Still surprised to see that this is so much more important to a predominantly NA audience (and clearly more vital than global pandemics and economics) European plates? NA plates ? One plate? Two plates? No plates?, is this not a simple matter of “aesthetics” using legality as a defence ? One day when the privilege to drive a car has been taken away and we sit in small quarters, pushing our pablum from one corner of the plate to the other, this poignant topic will find its perspective.
Get out there and enjoy the drive.

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What flavor pablum ?
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Originally Posted by wc11
What flavor pablum ?
Beef Wellington, of course!
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Originally Posted by Imo000
The people who think we must NOT have a front plate, I don’t get it.
Pretty simple. Cars look better without front plates. People do all kinds of stuff to make their cars look better. spacers. new wheels. carbon fibre bits. decals. I prefer the clean look of no front plate. The cost of this mod is the occasional front plate ticket. I'm ok with it, but would definitely prefer not to get ticketed for something that has no practical use and actually costs the province money.
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Wow. 21 pages of people saying the same thing over and over and over .....
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Originally Posted by Muskoka
Pretty simple. Cars look better without front plates. People do all kinds of stuff to make their cars look better. spacers. new wheels. carbon fibre bits. decals. I prefer the clean look of no front plate. The cost of this mod is the occasional front plate ticket. I'm ok with it, but would definitely prefer not to get ticketed for something that has no practical use and actually costs the province money.
Simple in theory.

However, this assumes that the majority of people in Ontario care. I agree completely that this is about appearance and not the "aerodynamic efficiency' argument.

I come from the great unwashed middle. Dont care whether my cars have plates or not. I have cars in Arizona with no front plates and cars here with them. As a European it just seems normal to me to have them, but whatever the law says is fine with me. Would I go back and retrofit my cars with bumper plugs?...doubt it. I do understand that this is very important some people and am very happy for them to campaign on it.


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