Michael Wekerle sues Porsche
11-04-2016, 10:30 PM
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11-05-2016, 07:47 PM
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11-06-2016, 08:33 AM
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11-06-2016, 09:46 AM
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11-06-2016, 03:41 PM
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Doesn't matter if he used a squeegee...the fact that fuel was present that enabled him to spread it using a squeegee is the issue. As a matter of fact I wonder if the courts will see his "desperation in using the squeegee" as evidence to the fact that there was unusual amounts of gas present. "OMG there's fuel running down my car super car towards the engine bay...**** what do I do...grab the squeegee and try to dissipate the fuel"....I've done the same on my car. Its not an unusual mental thought in the moment. He has a case here.
Normally squeegees are full of fluid or water right? I'm no chemistry expert but wouldn't the water dissipate the fuel? There must have been quite a lot of fuel present and based on shape (this could be Porsche's problem) of where the fuelling cap is the excess fuel could have ran down towards the engine bay and this is where he, in a panic, grabs the squeegee and attempts to prevent the fuel reaching the engine bay.
Trust me the lawyers would have already broken this down part by part.
Normally squeegees are full of fluid or water right? I'm no chemistry expert but wouldn't the water dissipate the fuel? There must have been quite a lot of fuel present and based on shape (this could be Porsche's problem) of where the fuelling cap is the excess fuel could have ran down towards the engine bay and this is where he, in a panic, grabs the squeegee and attempts to prevent the fuel reaching the engine bay.
Trust me the lawyers would have already broken this down part by part.
Isn't there methanol in the fluid?
Just sayin
11-06-2016, 06:01 PM
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Nope.
Observe how the fuel filler cap is below the exhaust pipes. Note also that the filling hose has been removed and the car is not yet on fire. Without the ill-considered squeegee intervention spilled fuel would have simply run down the side of the car and on the ground like it would with any other car.
11-06-2016, 07:57 PM
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Yes, there is methanol in wiper fluid and methanol is flammable. However most gas station squeegee fluid would be very dilute wiper fluid, and probably not flammable as it's nearly all water, a little methanol, and some detergent.
11-06-2016, 10:55 PM
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Methanol/alcohol is used to prevent windshield washer fluid from freezing, but it's in very small quantity by volume well mixed in with water suspension in windshield washer fluid from its hydroscopic property.
IF the windshield washer was remotely flammable or can contribute to ignition or fire, the warning label would have been required, I have yet to see any regular concentration windshield washer with the flammable warning symbol, although the Rain-X windshield treatment product does have much stronger concentration of alcohol and does have flammability warning caution on it's container.
BTW, alcohol based hand sanitizers also have strong concentration, that's how it dries quickly, it IS flammable as I had confirmed a few years ago during a bet with a friend, he could not believe the heat it gave out while the flame was nearly colorless.
IF the windshield washer was remotely flammable or can contribute to ignition or fire, the warning label would have been required, I have yet to see any regular concentration windshield washer with the flammable warning symbol, although the Rain-X windshield treatment product does have much stronger concentration of alcohol and does have flammability warning caution on it's container.
BTW, alcohol based hand sanitizers also have strong concentration, that's how it dries quickly, it IS flammable as I had confirmed a few years ago during a bet with a friend, he could not believe the heat it gave out while the flame was nearly colorless.
11-07-2016, 02:07 AM
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I've seen countless people using a squeegee to clean off overfilled gasoline on the side of their cars.....almost giving it a full wash....cringe. I would never use a gas station squeegee period.
Perhaps the squeegee that was used on the 918 had traces of gasoline in it that splashed "up" onto the exhaust/engine area during his haste? Just a thought. 🍻
Perhaps the squeegee that was used on the 918 had traces of gasoline in it that splashed "up" onto the exhaust/engine area during his haste? Just a thought. 🍻
11-07-2016, 01:23 PM
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My understanding is that gas itself will not ignite, it's the fumes that go boom. If it was the exhaust that ignited the fire, how is squeegeeing it down going to start it? The exhaust is above. no?
11-07-2016, 01:29 PM
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