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Old 08-14-2007, 10:02 PM
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I just installed my 3 spoke wheel and the horn works when the car is off but not when it is on?

What's the deal?
Old 08-14-2007, 11:39 PM
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My guess is you plugged it in backwards.
Old 08-14-2007, 11:55 PM
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That is very wierd...... I have never used mine, but if it didnt work it would concern me that the airbag wouldnt work!
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Originally Posted by wross996tt
My guess is you plugged it in backwards.
What's backwards? It looks to fit one way?

Can someone else add to this?
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This happened to a Boxster owner after he replaced the dash. http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...=14923&hl=horn

Not the electrical guy, but there are 2 wires for the horn and you really cannot hook them up wrong because they are different lengths. One wire goes to the steering wheel and the other goes to the horn plate. These 2 wires create a ground so even if you could reverse them it would not matter.
Old 08-15-2007, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Tool Pants
This happened to a Boxster owner after he replaced the dash. http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...=14923&hl=horn

Not the electrical guy, but there are 2 wires for the horn and you really cannot hook them up wrong because they are different lengths. One wire goes to the steering wheel and the other goes to the horn plate. These 2 wires create a ground so even if you could reverse them it would not matter.
Thanks for the link.

It looks like no solution was found on his end yet either. Im going to dive deeper today so If anyone have any ideas, PLEASE let me know!

This is the strangest thing I've seen
Old 08-15-2007, 11:23 AM
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put the original wheel back on, if it works, then its the 3 spoke wheel. If it doesnt. then its an elec issue... check the relays, make sure theyre in the sockets securely

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Originally Posted by redridge
put the original wheel back on, if it works, then its the 3 spoke wheel. If it doesnt. then its an elec issue... check the relays, make sure theyre in the sockets securely
It doesnt make sense though. The horn BEEPS when the car is off? Im not exactly sure how the horn system works but im assuming that when you press the pad, it completes a circuit, therefor sending power to the horn....

The horn is connected directly to power all the time(not switched power) so that it can work when the car is off AND on.

Where in the circuit of the horn system could there be a mishap that causes the horn system to work off of SWITCHED power rather than CONSTANT power?

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Old 08-15-2007, 11:44 AM
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Just curious...is the 3 spoke a factory unit or a 3rd party unit? If 3rd party, did it have any speical requirements for the horn to function?

Like you this doesn't make any sense as it shouldn't matter if the car is on or off, it should work at all times.
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Originally Posted by TheSpeedDemon
Just curious...is the 3 spoke a factory unit or a 3rd party unit? If 3rd party, did it have any speical requirements for the horn to function?

Like you this doesn't make any sense as it shouldn't matter if the car is on or off, it should work at all times.
It is a factory unit with factory airbag....
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What year is the car?
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Originally Posted by Gator911
It is a factory unit with factory airbag....
And my mirrors controls are completely reversed (thread already started on that subject) so, um yea.
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Originally Posted by Doug Donsbach
What year is the car?
99 C2
Old 08-15-2007, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gator911
Im not exactly sure how the horn system works but im assuming that when you press the pad, it completes a circuit, therefor sending power to the horn....
I know American cars work that way.

Bad grounds cause incorrect travel of electricity. They always take the shortest path so maybe when the key is on, somehow, power is grounding through another circuit? **shrug**

I feel for you, these things can cause headaches.
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Originally Posted by Gator911
99 C2
That's just odd. Just spent a few minutes with the schematics, and I can't see how that happens, because:

- Horn relay contacts and coil are supplied with constant-on fused power via 25A fuse #3 in fuse holder B.

- Horn button simply grounds the other side of the relay coil, pulling in the contacts and supplying horns with the fused power.

It doesn't get much more simple than that. The wheel isn't by chance a tiptronic wheel, is it?


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