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Porsche Taycan 4S 93kWh
winter tires; 245/45-20 front, 285/40-20 rear
range mode, regen off

Tesla Model S Raven Performance,
winter tires, 245/45-19 all, double spoke rims

Highway speed: 120kmh = 74.5mph per GPS
Avg speed 110kmh = 68.3mph

369km loop around Leipzig. 229mi

Weather: 7degC = 45F, dry, strong winds
AC set to 19degC = 66F, seat heating on


Consumption per instrument cluster of each model:
Taycan: 23.6kWh/100km = 380Wh/mi
Model S: 21.4kWh/100km = 345Wh/mi

Range:
Taycan: 376km = 234mi
Model S: 424km = 263mi

Battery energy used as per instrument cluster:
Taycan: 87kWh
Model S: 90.8kWh





This latter is interesting. Porsche may have already extended the range of the Taycan by making the buffer smaller or the instrument cluster shows conservative consumption.

Needsdecaf

Thanks for sharing, great data. Wish we could have seen a Turbo or S as well. Would like to see how much real world penalty you get between a 4S with performance pack vs the turbo. I bet it's not much.

Bob Roberts

Did they explain why Regen is off in Taycan? Was it off in the Tesla?
My German is not that good, certainly not ausgezeichnet (nod to VW)

Zcd1

That source/site is being extremely careful in all of their testing to play to the Taycan's strengths and avoid its weaknesses.

jkjjpc

They said the Taycan was in Range Mode, which lowers the ride height and turns off regeneration to allow "coasting," which Porsche says is a more efficient way to drive. I don't think they mentioned what recuperation setting was used for the Tesla.

daveo4porsche

everyone is testing 75 mph - I'd be interesting in range differences (if any) say at 60 mph

acoste

Not at all. This guy is a long time Tesla fan and owns a Tesla.

acoste

One of the goal with this test is to check which drive train is more efficient. Regen can throw off numbers big way. They didn't mention if Tesla's regen was set to low but most likely that was the case based on previous videos.

At the same time regen shouldn't matter much in this test as it is highway driving.

Zcd1

Let us know when they do a range test with average speeds more aligned with what average drivers see. Autobahn speeds aren't relevant 90+% of the time for most drivers.

I will note, however that in a recent charge-speed test, one of their graphics showed that the Model 3 charges as fast as the Taycan up to about 50%, despite its "inferior" 400V architecture...

acoste

This test was done at 75mph.
In California speed limit is 65mph. Traffic moves at around 75mph. I usually set my cruise control to 78mph. Except on Hwy 5 where I set it to 83mph. What else can be more relevant range test than this? Range is needed on the highway, not in the city. How many drivers are doing 300mi/day at the average city driving speed of 30mph?

CarMaven

Which charge, speed test? Who did it; Next Move?

And you do know. That the oft quoted Car and Driver test, did have a REAL MILEAGE, REAL WORLD component?

It was the sum of their three day testing, including urban; suburban; highway, and performance testing. That's where both cars got an identical MPGe rating of 70 from. So, actually one metric corroborated the other (the controlled high speed oval vs the their multi-tiered driving and testing). It wasn't only that one oft mentioned high speed oval component, FWIW. That's why Car and Driver was so sure the cars would have similar Real World Mileage, regardless of EPA.

Just check the last two paragraphs of the Car and Driver Range Analysis between both cars.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...tesla-model-s/

I hear ya. If you wanna see other H2H around town, mixed driving testing. Sure, I can see that. However, most people testing will do higher speed driving for longer distance where/when you need it. Shrugs.

Dyefrog

Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with you. If Porsche has set the Taycan up to be most efficient in range at this speed, then they understand the dynamics of range anxiety better than most.

Zcd1

Then why don't the various rating agencies test ONLY highway range?

Right, because that only illustrates a portion of the complete picture.

Zcd1

Yes, Next Move.

And yes, exactly.

And yep, that's why Superchargers are generally ~150 miles apart.