Zcd1

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ng-range-plus/

XLR82XS

How is that Tesla pricing accurate? Model S long-range is $79,990 before options. (white is the only free color)

Zcd1

The answer is in the text of the article.

Needsdecaf

For one, our 2020 Model S Long Range Plus example no longer exists in Tesla's lineup; it was introduced just last year and has since been replaced by an updated Long Range model that will launch shortly.

kort677

fwiw: tesla is not building model s or x cars at this time

Needsdecaf

FWIW, that should be remedied shortly.

Needsdecaf

Just read this test. I'd say they nailed it pretty well. Pulled no punches and called it pretty accurately according to my experiences. Both are excellent vehicles overall, despite each having several shortcomings, and both are for different buyers.

If you didn't know anything about either car, I'd say this would give you a very good idea of what to expect when you ride, drive and live with each.

kort677

I wouldn't bet on that, the reason for the suspension was that neither model was selling well so they are focused on the cars that are selling the 3 and the Y

Needsdecaf

Incorrect, they suspended production to re-tool for the facelifted interiors. These cars were announced in January and it generated plenty of activity on the order sheets. I don't think anyone outside of Tesla has learned whether it's supplier delays, regulatory delays or what but they're sitting on a stack of orders for LR's and Plaids for both cars due to the updated design. They have cars they need to produce to fill plenty of existing orders.

manitou202

This might be one of the most pointless reviews I've ever read. Basically, we couldn't get the latest Tesla Model S because they are delayed six months, and we didn't try real hard to get an entry level Taycan, so we decided to test two vehicles in completely different classes that only share a couple of common traits: 4 wheels, 4 doors, steering wheel, oh and they happen to both be EV's. Why not compare the Taycan to the Model 3 or the Bolt? They are both EV's.

From the article:
Taycan
Highs: Bold styling, sports-car-like handling, beautifully finished, neat EV sounds.
Lows: Porsche pricing, modest range, less accommodating for people and stuff.

Model S
Highs: Big-time range, plenty quick, attractively priced, practical packaging.
Lows: Poor fit and finish, dated interior, bland steering and chassis feel.


So in summary, the Porsche is a Porsche (expensive, beautiful fit and finish, sports-like handling) and the Tesla is an economy car (super bland and boring, but it's cheaper and more practical).
The highs and lows from the Model S could be said for the Model 3, Model Y, Chevy Bolt, VW ID.4, Mustang Mach-E, etc.

whiz944

They are doing a major refresh of the S and X. Couple months behind schedule. Drone vids are showing a bunch of new Model S have been built recently. And I had a mobile service guy over a few days ago, who has seen one up close.

Then there is this: https://driveteslacanada.ca/model-s/...roduction-car/

XLR82XS

Seems like C&D is going the way of Consumer Reports. Journalism overall is out of wack today.

Zcd1

Your comment reveals more about your personal prejudices than it does about the reality of the situation.

The cars are almost identical in overall dimensions and their price range starts with the Model S, passes through certain Taycan models, passes through other Model S models and then is capped by the Taycan Turbo S in the stratosphere.

The Model S was clearly Porsche's target, and while the Taycan surpasses the Model S on many fronts, it also falls short of it on other fronts.

But make no mistake - they ARE competitors.

iammacey

You should read his entire post or read it again. Assuming positive intent, you've misinterpreted what was said.

It's evident that the review is pointless. Specifically because low effort. Nothing to do with comparing Taycan and Model S, but the trims they chose to compare and then the Pros/Cons listed.

whiz944

I miss the days of the late, great, David E Davis.