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Old 08-08-2021, 08:44 AM
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"Long time lurker, first time poster" as they say. I'm in the early stages of buying a Taycan, but I'm being patient as I want to wait it out and see how these supply shortages and the ridiculousness that is the current car market (Porsche cars especially) cool off. Nevertheless, I've been stuck between a highly optioned 4S and a modestly optioned Turbo. I'd love to get you all's perspectives on my builds for both examples. My primary concern is that the huge chunk of cash I'd spend on options on the 4S would be a sunk cost when it comes time to get rid of the car, whereas I'm expecting the residual to be much higher on the Turbo, thus justifying the 20k-ish nexus between the final prices. Also having 616hp vs 482hp is probably worth some extra dough too, but I digress. You guys are the current owners and I'm sure have much more insight on this than I do. I appreciate the feedback!

Turbo: http://www.porsche-code.com/PN8JGAJ7

4S: http://www.porsche-code.com/PND9WKN5
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If you care about the acceleration this is a no brainer. Depreciation is going to suck regardless given its a first gen car. I went with the version that makes me smile more.

If I were getting a 4S, I’d skip the performance upgrades, get the Burmester audio and aftermarket wheels from HRE.

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I just went through this decision. Since my 4S was brushing up against $143k, I considered the Turbo. Similar build in the Turbo was about $165k. In the end, I didn’t want to give up enough options to get the prices close enough and the 4S is already plenty fast, so I went with that. My dealer did mention that currently Turbo and Turbo S allocations we’re very hard to come by until early 2022.
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I haven’t seen the HRE’s so I’ll have to take a look, and yeah I’m not excited about the inevitable depreciation. But I may choose to wait until the .2’s come out if the car market is still bananas come next year. I’ve also heard varying accounts of the 4S and turbo being indiscernible during daily driving but I’m not sure if that’s true or not.

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If you care about the acceleration this is a no brainer. Depreciation is going to suck regardless given its a first gen car. I went with the version that makes me smile more.

If I were getting a 4S, I’d skip the performance upgrades, get the Burmester audio and aftermarket wheels from HRE.
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Hmmm that’s definitely good to know. I think if I had some extended time with the 4S/turbo that would make my decision for me. I know neither car will feel slow certainly, but I’ve only had abbreviated test drives with both so far unfortunately. I have no problem waiting for an allocation.


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I just went through this decision. Since my 4S was brushing up against $143k, I considered the Turbo. Similar build in the Turbo was about $165k. In the end, I didn’t want to give up enough options to get the prices close enough and the 4S is already plenty fast, so I went with that. My dealer did mention that currently Turbo and Turbo S allocations we’re very hard to come by until early 2022.
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The Bose in the Taycan is fantastic; by far the best Bose system I’ve ever heard. Probably better than anything I’ve heard in other cars period. If you want the 4S to perform, get the Performance Plus battery and spec the performance pack. I’d also highly recommend driving cars with both the 14 way and 18 way seats. Most Taycans have 14 way seats, but I much preferred the 18 ways. Gave the drive a more sporty feel. Only downside is that you have to spec leather interior, which adds $4k to the build.

Also, aftermarket wheels are unnecessary. The stock wheel options are great, whether you want a sporty look or a luxury car look.

And remember, the 4S turns a true 3.7 0-60 time on the street. That’s still very, very fast, especially for a 4500+ lb car.

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Very true.....the 0-60 isn’t too important to me, but in terms of just outright “overtaking” acceleration from the 60-70mph range I think that’s where the difference in power really shows. But as you said, by no means is the 4S slow.
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What sealed the deal for me in the end was comparing each to cars I've owned. The 4S is very similar in power to my last 911, while the Turbo is similar to my '19 M5. Loved both of those cars, but I honestly felt like the M5 was too power much for the street. It was an absolute missile that had me either restraining it or risking jail time, while the 911 was still very quick but more usable on the street.
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That's an interesting way to put it. I haven't yet owned a car that I felt was too fast for the road, so that may be something to consider as well. I appreciate the input.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
The Bose in the Taycan is fantastic; by far the best Bose system I’ve ever heard. Probably better than anything I’ve heard in other cars period.
Agreed. The BOSE rocks in the Taycan way more than my 991.2 ever will or any other P-car I have owned with BOSE. This is the best BOSE in a Porsche. (I had Burmester in a 970 Panamera)
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
What sealed the deal for me in the end was comparing each to cars I've owned. The 4S is very similar in power to my last 911, while the Turbo is similar to my '19 M5. Loved both of those cars, but I honestly felt like the M5 was too power much for the street. It was an absolute missile that had me either restraining it or risking jail time, while the 911 was still very quick but more usable on the street.
Can you imagine how this must feel on the street? At least you have a dial to turn it down....
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That much power is nearly totally useless on the street, unless you really want to risk a ride in the back of a police car. In my M5, even using 3/4 of the power on tap was difficult to do on the street except on the extremely rare occasion. It's cool bragging rights to say that your car is a three second car, but it's pretty meaningless in the real world.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
That much power is nearly totally useless on the street, unless you really want to risk a ride in the back of a police car. In my M5, even using 3/4 of the power on tap was difficult to do on the street except on the extremely rare occasion. It's cool bragging rights to say that your car is a three second car, but it's pretty meaningless in the real world.
but the first 3 seconds of every entrance ramp ...
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Originally Posted by Tip
That's an interesting way to put it. I haven't yet owned a car that I felt was too fast for the road, so that may be something to consider as well. I appreciate the input.
not to get too far off track, but what are you comparing the 4S to ? Because every car I've bought since 2000 has been too fast for the road. And no, that didn't stop me from buying cars with 50% more hp than that ...
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
but the first 3 seconds of every entrance ramp ...
But even 75 percent of that power was more than safely usable and you don’t have empty entrance ramps every time. It’s such a rare event to have that clear path. I rarely even used 450 hp of my M5, much less the full 600+, and believe me I tried.


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