Taycan Cross Turismo 4 or 4S?
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mdrobc1213 (10-13-2021)
10-13-2021, 06:48 AM
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That was my thought between the Taycan 4S and regular Taycan...difference wasn;'t enough to justify another $20k overall on the car/price when finished/done for my daily driver and 3rd vehicle.
Yes my thoughts, hopes, observation and dreams and plans also! 
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10-13-2021, 11:29 AM
#19
Burning Brakes
Thanks. Interested more in your initial impressions and thought processes as you decided between the two if you don't mind sharing.
Budget is a factor for some...even for me with this replacing my main daily driver which was a 2019 Audi RS5 Sportback and not necessarily cheap. However for $14k price delta between the 4 and 4S; I still don't see much of the difference other than I think 1 sec in the 0-60 times 3.8/3.9 for CT4S and 4.8/4.9 for the CT which guys is still faster than most other drivers beside you on the road. So question IMHO become more of a badging issue and customer preference and wallet tolerances not utility especially when we talk about the almost ludicrous speeds and times of the S and Turbo S Taycans AND their respective costs!!
Drove a Taycan 4S sedan and then a Turbo and very much difference in power delivery and quickness but then again not much I'd really see the need for daily driving and in a way when driving it using all that power I wasn't being very battery/EV friendly if that makes sense. Great performance in those cars but eats battery and thus endurance time....I think. Interested in opinions of those with more seat/ownership time as mine limited to demo drives.
Yep as stated buyer preference..but when is $14-15k just a couple of thousand bucks? Only in a Porsche forum! LOL
Quicker to 60 secs by 1 sec given the docs from Porsche however since they do underestimate their times conservatively its probably much more closer I think. Also doubt most drivers will/would notice in real world driving situations given real world driving experiences and skills delta between many driving these cars.
Budget is a factor for some...even for me with this replacing my main daily driver which was a 2019 Audi RS5 Sportback and not necessarily cheap. However for $14k price delta between the 4 and 4S; I still don't see much of the difference other than I think 1 sec in the 0-60 times 3.8/3.9 for CT4S and 4.8/4.9 for the CT which guys is still faster than most other drivers beside you on the road. So question IMHO become more of a badging issue and customer preference and wallet tolerances not utility especially when we talk about the almost ludicrous speeds and times of the S and Turbo S Taycans AND their respective costs!!
Drove a Taycan 4S sedan and then a Turbo and very much difference in power delivery and quickness but then again not much I'd really see the need for daily driving and in a way when driving it using all that power I wasn't being very battery/EV friendly if that makes sense. Great performance in those cars but eats battery and thus endurance time....I think. Interested in opinions of those with more seat/ownership time as mine limited to demo drives.
Yep as stated buyer preference..but when is $14-15k just a couple of thousand bucks? Only in a Porsche forum! LOL
Quicker to 60 secs by 1 sec given the docs from Porsche however since they do underestimate their times conservatively its probably much more closer I think. Also doubt most drivers will/would notice in real world driving situations given real world driving experiences and skills delta between many driving these cars.
10-14-2021, 01:51 PM
#20
You may have spec'd it differently than I did, but when spec'ing a CT for order, I was really surprised at the $$$ difference between the CT, CT4S, Turbo, and S. Of course I'd love a Turbo, and I could, in theory, afford it. There's a 991.1 Turbo S in the garage.
Configured as I did, a nicely equipped CT is actually $125k, a 4S $150k, a Turbo $185k, and the Turbo S $209k. 95% of the configuration is exactly the same except the acceleration, slightly the range, and whether the fender flares are gloss or matte. It's REALLY hard to justify $35k for the extra acceleration and glossy flares of the Turbo. I couldn't, so I ordered the 4s, which is my idea of the Goldilocks choice.
Configured as I did, a nicely equipped CT is actually $125k, a 4S $150k, a Turbo $185k, and the Turbo S $209k. 95% of the configuration is exactly the same except the acceleration, slightly the range, and whether the fender flares are gloss or matte. It's REALLY hard to justify $35k for the extra acceleration and glossy flares of the Turbo. I couldn't, so I ordered the 4s, which is my idea of the Goldilocks choice.
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thebishman (10-14-2021)
10-14-2021, 04:23 PM
#21
First time caller, long time listener.
This topic is near and dear to my heart. I currently drive a 4S sedan, and have a CT4 currently being loaded onto a boat.
I feel like this decision is a lot harder for CT buyers than sedan buyers, because the differences between each trim aren't as pronounced (especially the first 2), and you're paying a premium for straight line acceleration. At least for the sedan, making the jump from RWD to 4S gives you all wheel drive as standard, as well as the air suspension. The base CT 4 comes with the all wheel drive, air suspension, and PB+ right out of the gate.
As time got closer for me to decide what I wanted to order, I started to realize I really don't utilize the speed of my 4S as much as I thought I would when I bought it (4S PB+ was the only way to get an entry Taycan initially), and after thinking I would order a CT4S, started pondering the CT4. To help with my decision, I went and test drove a RWD sedan and although it isn't as quick as my 4S, was still a blast to drive. As my daily, I quickly realized the extra power wouldn't be missed in a CT4, which is faster straight line than a RWD Taycan and more than I really need daily. Thus, I ordered a CT4 instead. I guess time will tell if I miss it, but with my 4S and even faster Performance Model S before it, I got over the launch and straight line novelty very quickly, and enjoy the Porsche handling so much more.
This topic is near and dear to my heart. I currently drive a 4S sedan, and have a CT4 currently being loaded onto a boat.
I feel like this decision is a lot harder for CT buyers than sedan buyers, because the differences between each trim aren't as pronounced (especially the first 2), and you're paying a premium for straight line acceleration. At least for the sedan, making the jump from RWD to 4S gives you all wheel drive as standard, as well as the air suspension. The base CT 4 comes with the all wheel drive, air suspension, and PB+ right out of the gate.
As time got closer for me to decide what I wanted to order, I started to realize I really don't utilize the speed of my 4S as much as I thought I would when I bought it (4S PB+ was the only way to get an entry Taycan initially), and after thinking I would order a CT4S, started pondering the CT4. To help with my decision, I went and test drove a RWD sedan and although it isn't as quick as my 4S, was still a blast to drive. As my daily, I quickly realized the extra power wouldn't be missed in a CT4, which is faster straight line than a RWD Taycan and more than I really need daily. Thus, I ordered a CT4 instead. I guess time will tell if I miss it, but with my 4S and even faster Performance Model S before it, I got over the launch and straight line novelty very quickly, and enjoy the Porsche handling so much more.
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Visceral (10-14-2021)
10-15-2021, 12:37 PM
#22
Three Wheelin'
have not measured the clearance.
this is my daily and my main decision over the a non CT was the practical cargo.
The base 2 wheel drive Taycan is awesome and if a sport Turismo 2 wheel drive was avail, I would have gone that direction.
I do run in a higher lift mode as it is easier getting in and out. 🤣🤣🤣
that being said, my CT is my favorite car for the street that I have ever owned!
I have only one disappointment, I am 6’4” 260 lbs. which is the ingress and egress with the b-pillar being too for forward (like the Mecan.). The work around for getting in and out is
ingress - to put the steering wheel all the way forward and sit down first and swing both legs at the same time in the car.
egress - to put the steering wheel all the way forward and swing both legs at the same time out of the car. Then stand up.
this is my daily and my main decision over the a non CT was the practical cargo.
The base 2 wheel drive Taycan is awesome and if a sport Turismo 2 wheel drive was avail, I would have gone that direction.
I do run in a higher lift mode as it is easier getting in and out. 🤣🤣🤣
that being said, my CT is my favorite car for the street that I have ever owned!
I have only one disappointment, I am 6’4” 260 lbs. which is the ingress and egress with the b-pillar being too for forward (like the Mecan.). The work around for getting in and out is
ingress - to put the steering wheel all the way forward and sit down first and swing both legs at the same time in the car.
egress - to put the steering wheel all the way forward and swing both legs at the same time out of the car. Then stand up.
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17716316[/url]]Alas, I don't think that many dealerships have a CT4 available to test-drive.
What have you learned about the lift modes in your CT4? Can you measure how high the ground clearance is in the highest level?
What have you learned about the lift modes in your CT4? Can you measure how high the ground clearance is in the highest level?
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Needsdecaf (10-19-2021)
10-19-2021, 10:36 AM
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Burning Brakes
10-22-2021, 02:12 AM
#26
IDK. I spec'd mine to 150K. I debated the 4S vs 4 too. In the end, after driving a base sedan, I decided I would rather have less power spec'd exactly as I want (full leather, mamba green stitching, PDCC, Rear Wheel Steer, PTV, Surface coated brakes, Burmester, Night vision (yeah I said it) etc) than spend more money on power. The E39 M5 did 0-60 in 4.8 seconds I believe. That was never thought of as slow and perhaps the pinnacle of M5-dom. The CT4 is same 0-60 plus instant torque. My 718 Spyder manual is listed as 4.3 and that's not really what "does it" for me about that car (ordered the Burmester on that too and worth every penny despite the noise BTW). Sometimes I miss my 1991 BMW 318is. Speed is not everything. And I'm on a budget dammit!
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Visceral (10-22-2021)
10-22-2021, 04:27 PM
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http://www.porsche-code.com/PN9NJ9J3
If you're going to spend $130-$160k on a car, one should love every second in it. Personalizing it helps me do that quite a bit.
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10-22-2021, 10:56 PM
#28
I genuinely struggle to "lightly option" any non-RS P-car. Turbo S has 38k in options, Spyder has $42k (incl PTS), and the ordered CT4S has $38,630 in options chosen, and I actually think I left lots off.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PN9NJ9J3
If you're going to spend $130-$160k on a car, one should love every second in it. Personalizing it helps me do that quite a bit.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PN9NJ9J3
If you're going to spend $130-$160k on a car, one should love every second in it. Personalizing it helps me do that quite a bit.
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Visceral (10-25-2021)
10-25-2021, 12:53 PM
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