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03-10-2020, 10:48 AM | Replies: 28 | Views: 8869
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
  • 2002 Porsche 911 - 2002 996 C4S RWD conversion and LN 3.8 engine upgrade - Used - VIN WP0AA29932S622131 - 113,900 Miles - 6 cyl - 2WD - Manual - Coupe - Silver - Vienna, VA 22182, United States
    Sold
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  • Price
    $5,000
    • OBO
  • Location Vienna, VA, 22182, USA
  • Condition Used
  • VIN WP0AA29932S622131
  • Mileage 113,900
  • Engine 6 cyl
  • Drive Type 2WD
  • Transmission Manual
  • Vehicle Type Coupe
  • Exterior Color Silver
Description:

For sale as a rolling chassis only due to engine failure. I sincerely appreciate those that have shown interest in the car. As noted earlier, the car has suffered what is thought to have been a spun bearing, based on the misfire codes and noise it made when cranked by my mechanic. I am in discussion with a couple of the members and a dismantler about selling it as a rolling chassis.

Thank you.


I purchased the car in Miami in March 2018 from member, Hardback, https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...onversion.html. I bought it with intention of making it a daily driver with doing 3-4 track events a year. The car has approximately 113900 miles. I am the 3rd owner and have most records, dating back to the first owner. I keep a Google spreadsheet of works done on the car,
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing. I am selling the car as I am purchasing another car.

2002 C4S that had a "D chunk" failure and rebuilt by TuneRS in Florida:
- 3.8L LN cylinder and JE pistons.
- LN Triple row ceramic IMS bearing was installed at the same time.
- 0.5 Qt. Deep
Sump
- Porsche Sports Exhaust
- Fabspeed 200-cell cat

- Intake airbox mod
- approximately 40,000 miles on rebuilt engine
- Please check the Google docs for more detailed items replaced during the rebuild,
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Below are items I've done to the car since purchasing it.

Suspension Work, all done by TPC in Maryland:
- Ohlins coilover
- Rear axle replaced (boot on the driver side was torn)
- GT3 Lower Control Arm for camber change on the front
- Rear control arms replaced
- Outer tie rods replaced
- Front & rear strut mounts replaced
- Tarret GT3-style sway bars and end links.
- Alignment set up to European GT3 spec

Interior:
- Kenwood Excelon DDX6903S with Apple CarPlay AV receiver & rear view camera
- JBL 329 and GTO 529 speakers (dash, rear sides, and sub).
- All weather rubber mat
- Leather dash does not have any shrinkage problem

Maintenance Items (in the past 2 years):
- Front and rear brake pads and rotors replaced
- Spark plugs and coils
- Power steering pumps and reservoir replaced due to leak
- Drive belt and idler pulleys
- Cabin and engine air filters replaced
- Engine lid support struts replaced

Other items done:
- Light Saver for the taillight assembly
- 35% tint on the side windows and 50% for the rear glass

The exterior is NOT pristine, there are scuffs and scratches here and there. Rocker panel covers that were painted by previous owner are flaking off in tiny spots here and there, which I tried to show in the pictures. I had the wheels refinished from black to silver but managed to chip both rear wheels in couple spots. There are also small "paint cracks" showing near the wheel caps in couple of spots. The brake calipers were refinished by previous owner but "paint cracks" appeared on them during his ownership.


The infamous shooting foams from vent was partially dealt with. While installing the head unit, I was able to get to the front flap which I cleaned up and put aluminum duct tapes on, but the rear flap was impossible to get to, so there is still small pieces coming out occasionally, but far less than it used to. Overall, air flows seems to work fine and AC feels stronger than my 997.

The car pulls as hard as 997.1 Carrera S (which has 355 bhp) and sounds amazing with the PSE and airbox mod. Most of the major maintenance items have been taken cared and I've changed engine oils with Redline synthetic oil. I do have the front drive shaft which will go with the car. The PO did mention that he had to fix front diff leak before taking it out completely.

If you are looking for a perfect, or near-perfect 996, then this one may not be it. However, if you want something that you can drive without being obsessive about every chips and scratches, and want an RWD 996 with the wide rear end, this one may check the box.


I do have a lien on the car through Pentagon Federal Credit Union.


I also have a set of Ferodo DS2500 pads for sale, https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1183065

Thank you.

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Old 03-10-2020, 08:19 PM
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Sweet car - if I was in the market for at C4S I'd be all over this.

Looks like the google docs links aren't working for me - getting 404 Not Found.
Old 03-10-2020, 08:28 PM
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Thanks, and sorry about the Google doc issue, I fixed it and verified it.
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What is a LN Triple row ceramic IMS bearing? Can you link us to it? I didn't know it existed. This car looks fantastic. Going to share it with a friend who said he wanted one a C4S.
Old 03-11-2020, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by arethusa71
What is a LN Triple row ceramic IMS bearing? Can you link us to it? I didn't know it existed. This car looks fantastic. Going to share it with a friend who said he wanted one a C4S.
Before the IMS Solution or Single Row Pro was available, we would modify the single row ims shaft to accept additional bearings. We paired two 1621 and one 6204 bearing. We stopped offering this service once we came out with the IMS Solution and Single Row Pro, that's why you can't find it anywhere.




There was also a quad bearing IMS (no kidding) that pre-dated the triple bearing setup that used conventional ball bearings, before we had the ceramics made up for us.




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Sweet car and a great price!
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Old 03-11-2020, 03:38 PM
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Great price on the hollow spoke Turbo Twist wheels! I'm local but already have a 2nd wheel set. GLWS!
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Good luck with the sale amigo. She is a special car and with all the mods you've added it should make the next owner very happy.
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Any paintwork?
4s uprights or have they been changed to 6gt3 uprights?
Full engine build sheet?
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Originally Posted by Bisan
Any paintwork?
4s uprights or have they been changed to 6gt3 uprights?
Full engine build sheet?
Yes, there was some front end damage. The previous owner had an accident that he documented in hit ad that I linked in my ad.
4s uprights, as far as I am aware.
You can see from my Google sheet record what was replaced during the rebuild. I also have the paperwork and most of the maintenance records as mentioned.

thanks.
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I've not driven one of these yet, but can imagine it's a ton of fun. Best of luck with this sale.
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Originally Posted by bubela
I've not driven one of these yet, but can imagine it's a ton of fun. Best of luck with this sale.

Thank you for the comments. I thought I had a perfect buyer for the car, a gentleman who used to be an SCCA racer and owned 996 before that came out to drive it and loved it, and then the whole world stopped.....
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Originally Posted by jbse39
Thank you for the comments. I thought I had a perfect buyer for the car, a gentleman who used to be an SCCA racer and owned 996 before that came out to drive it and loved it, and then the whole world stopped.....
I am interested and I am in Warrenton, so that makes things easy, I am also a member of Pen Fed, so perhaps even easier. I am not looking for the perfect car, but I am looking for one to be reliable for my weekends in the mountains and a drive and back to work every once in a while. After reading Hardbacks post, I have a few additional questions:
1) Have you ever tried to address the difference in the way the front bummer sits? Just wondering
2) Perhaps LN can comment, but what is the lifespan on the triple row IMS? Should it be replaced at the same frequency other IMS replacements should be addressed?
3) Noticed the front pads and rotors were replaced at different times. Everything cohesive now?
4) If you were keeping it, is there anything that you would be addressing?
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Originally Posted by z06coop
I am interested and I am in Warrenton, so that makes things easy, I am also a member of Pen Fed, so perhaps even easier. I am not looking for the perfect car, but I am looking for one to be reliable for my weekends in the mountains and a drive and back to work every once in a while. After reading Hardbacks post, I have a few additional questions:
1) Have you ever tried to address the difference in the way the front bummer sits? Just wondering
2) Perhaps LN can comment, but what is the lifespan on the triple row IMS? Should it be replaced at the same frequency other IMS replacements should be addressed?
3) Noticed the front pads and rotors were replaced at different times. Everything cohesive now?
4) If you were keeping it, is there anything that you would be addressing?
1) I did not. I replaced a plastic support piece under the bumper cover because one of the holes for retaining clip was broken and it can be adjusted up and down, a bit. I have it sitting at a lower end of the range and am wondering if bringing it up a bit will make it look better.
2) According to LN, it is 6 years or 75k, whichever comes first.
3) When I updated the suspension, I had new front and rear pads with rear rotors installed. I kept the front because it was only a year old and ~5,000 miles old.
4) The 3rd brake light rubber trim is cracked and missing in small chunks so might replace that but otherwise whatever maintenance items that come up.

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Originally Posted by z06coop
I am interested and I am in Warrenton, so that makes things easy, I am also a member of Pen Fed, so perhaps even easier. I am not looking for the perfect car, but I am looking for one to be reliable for my weekends in the mountains and a drive and back to work every once in a while. After reading Hardbacks post, I have a few additional questions:
1) Have you ever tried to address the difference in the way the front bummer sits? Just wondering
2) Perhaps LN can comment, but what is the lifespan on the triple row IMS? Should it be replaced at the same frequency other IMS replacements should be addressed?
3) Noticed the front pads and rotors were replaced at different times. Everything cohesive now?
4) If you were keeping it, is there anything that you would be addressing?
Triple row had a service interval of 6 years or 75,000 miles, whichever comes first. We stopped offering this service back when the IMS Solution and Single Row Pro were introduced. You can update it to an IMS Solution using a 106-08.20. There were a few variations, so it would be best at that point to contact us so we can make sure you end up with the correct snap ring or spiroloc to retain the new IMS Solution bearing when you go to change it.



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