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2016 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS – PTS Riviera Blue -MT Still in the wrapper
05-14-2016, 06:11 PM
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2016 Carrera GTS – PTS Riviera Blue -MT Still in the wrapper Price reduced
Year: 2016
Make: Porsche
Model: 911
Cont. Porsche Models: 911
Mileage (numbers only please): 12
Options (Please check ALL which apply): Airbags, Air Conditioning, Alarm System, Antilock Brakes, Cruise Control, Foglamps, Intermittent Wipers, Leather Seats, Power Brakes, Power Door Locks, Power Windows, Traction Control
Color: Riviera Blue
VIN: WP0AB2A90GS123223
Price (no $ sign please): $125395
Private or Dealer Listing: Private Listing
Location (Region): SouthEast
Body Style: Coupe
Transmission Type: Manual - 6 speed
2 or 4 Wheel Drive?: 2 Wheel Drive
Engine Type: Fuel Injection
Stereo System: AM-FM CD
Why? I have another MT PTS ’16 GTS. Fantastic car.
No more naturally aspirated non GT 911's
Exterior Paint to Sample. Non-Metallic
Standard Interior with Leather Sport Plus Seats
Seat Heating
Seat Ventilation
Sport Design Steering Wheel in Leather
Deletion of GTS on Side Doors
Rear Wiper
Fuel Cap with Aluminum Look
Leather Key Pouch
Deletion of Alcantara
Luggage net in passenger footwell
No Sunroof
Vehicle Key Painted
Bose Audio
Wall Street Journal:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/porsche-...rbo-1460653405
Last edited by Suitcase; 06-27-2016 at 03:04 PM. Reason: corrections
05-14-2016, 07:29 PM
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you're correct. 160k too high. But 140 is market correct given rarity, color and investment potential. The car is no stories, no PDI new in wrapper, It's stunning and there is no other.
05-14-2016, 11:58 PM
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430 HP. Not 435. Very nice. GLWS.
05-15-2016, 01:11 AM
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This discussion and my ad illuminates the color / value issue. I would never suggest that anyone pays more for a GT3 RS just because they are speculating that one color may be worth more than another someday. Buy the color you love.
This car is brand new. The color is very rare on a MT/ no roof/ GTS. But the real question is do you love it? I would never suggest that anyone buy this car because somehow it will be worth more money someday. But if you walk out of a building and see your Riviera Blue car in the parking lot and it makes you smile the premium is not so great. I have that experience with both my Riviera Blue '98 C2S, which I paid a premium for, and my other MT GTS in Mint Green. In addition you could never find another.
This car is brand new. The color is very rare on a MT/ no roof/ GTS. But the real question is do you love it? I would never suggest that anyone buy this car because somehow it will be worth more money someday. But if you walk out of a building and see your Riviera Blue car in the parking lot and it makes you smile the premium is not so great. I have that experience with both my Riviera Blue '98 C2S, which I paid a premium for, and my other MT GTS in Mint Green. In addition you could never find another.
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05-15-2016, 09:15 AM
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I've owned many cars including a 959 and numerous RS models. The MT 991 GTS is a fantastic car. It's good bet that twenty years from now MT NA cars will be history. That's unfortunate for all of us "purists." But why wait? The car is great now. The '98 C2S wasn't thought as so special in '98. For me the RB color is the most compelling feature of the car. It's a wonderful car but it's no 964 RS. These days I love the "gumball" colors. It's about style. This is the highest performance MT/NA car that's available. Oh, right, it's no longer available. But it will be very difficult and much more expensive to get a Riviera Blue 911R unless your Jerry Seinfeld.
05-15-2016, 10:25 AM
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No doubt the 2016 GTS will one day be a collectible. It is the last year for a naturally aspirated 3.8 engine. Heck, it may not even have a MT next time it becomes available. For the money a properly equipped GTS has always been the preferred track/touring car and this is EXACTLY why Porsche sells it. The GT3 is interesting but frankly a unidimensionsal car with PDK (boring) and slightly more HP than a GTS. As a result, I have to question the GT3 collectibility and ridiculous premiums people pay for them. I suspect it makes the owner "feel" they are driving a "race" car with a storied past. Most numb nuts I meet at the track driving a GT3 can't drive the vehicle anyway, and regularly complain the spouse won't ride in the car so they end up selling them shortly thereafter. Now some of you may be fine with the spouse matter; the fact is performance nor availability justify the premium people pay for the GT3. You see 3x as many used GT3s for sale as you do GTSs. Why? The 2016 GTS will be a collectible. Already hard to find. Great value for the performance. MT/3.8 natural aspiration. A true modern Porsche driver's car.
05-15-2016, 01:33 PM
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As have I and my 95 RB.
But that's the point, rare car, rare color combo.
And just because it's rare doesn't make it valuable. Mint green? No way do people clamor for mint green. Sure interesting to watch, like a train wreck, but few would pay premium for it.
This is a 911, and view cars.com on a regular, even the current 991 board. Plenty of Riv/Mex/VooDoo 911 PTS cars sitting because the car isn't rare. Just the color.
Your GTS, no sunroof, MT..is special to a handful not to masses like your 98 C2S. That 98 993 defined itself in history of Porsche as a premium car. The GTS is yet to define itself as anything other than a 1 off 991. Plenty of 1 off 991 to choose from. Not special, maybe in 20 years but only time will tell. Quite a reach today.
Hey, as they say. You only need one "".
But that's the point, rare car, rare color combo.
And just because it's rare doesn't make it valuable. Mint green? No way do people clamor for mint green. Sure interesting to watch, like a train wreck, but few would pay premium for it.
This is a 911, and view cars.com on a regular, even the current 991 board. Plenty of Riv/Mex/VooDoo 911 PTS cars sitting because the car isn't rare. Just the color.
Your GTS, no sunroof, MT..is special to a handful not to masses like your 98 C2S. That 98 993 defined itself in history of Porsche as a premium car. The GTS is yet to define itself as anything other than a 1 off 991. Plenty of 1 off 991 to choose from. Not special, maybe in 20 years but only time will tell. Quite a reach today.
Hey, as they say. You only need one "".
As for saying that the 993 "defined itslef in history of Porsche as a premium car". That is somewhat laughable. From a looks /performance standpoint a C2S is nothing special. It's value was created by the fact that A)it is the last and most reliable air cooled 911 and B) the problems from the water cooled generation immediately after it were so great as to highlight A. The rest is moslyt hysteria.
Will the this GTS be a collector someday? Probably, in the sense that almost all Porsches will be collector items. Will it take about 15 years to get back to msrp like 993's did? At least. I use the 2010-2012 gts 's as a barometer. You can get a nice , low milage 2011 gts for about 70k now. Look for similar depreciation on this GTS as well. History does repeat itself.
05-15-2016, 10:26 PM
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OK
OK. I purchased the Mint Green car with a few miles. So that's the one I'm driving. The order is almost identical to the car I'm selling but I miss the rear wiper. The "Blue Streak" ('98) was my daily driver for 3 years until I started driving the Mint Green car. With 60k on the clock it goes into semi-retirement. These are all good choices. The buyer of the RB GTS won't be sorry.
